Autopsy 8 point win vs North

[The King!]

 

[caesar88]

I felt like all three areas of the ground were kinda dysfunctional for us but the thing about having a stacked team is that you can still have a few winners on each line and that can make a huge difference. McDonald and McLean ahead of the ball, Rampe and Edwards behind the ball, all did their roles really well and individually helped to compensate for how the whole wasn't quite working.

The mids were the only area I don't think we had a single winner all day. Heeney maybe.

 

[Cadsky]

Make no mistake, most Swans fans at the ground had their hearts in their throats for most of the game, it was tight.

It is my considered opinion the sole reason we won was due to our score being higher than theirs.

Never in doubt

 

[wolftone57]

Tbh i kinda feel bad for North that was probably the worst we have played in a very long time Bice/Melican were a comedy act

Midfield disappeared all on Heeney again to carry us, so many missed tackles Stephens shrugged a few.

15.2 essentially won us the game

Backline is a serious concern no way we can go into a final with Bice/Melican/Lloyd.

Difference is we had a mare but won by kicking over 100 again so thats a positive but we nearly conceded 100 in multiple weeks thats bad.

Lloyd didn't play back. He has been on the wing and HF all year.

 

[JackHiscoxWasFast]

Well North are a better version than the ones we've had other close tussles with here at Marvel these last few years.
That was a bad day for us but we are blessed we kicked so straight in the first half as that got us the win.
When I see the same players out there that represented (embarrassed) us in the 2022 & 2024 GFs & some of our ex players, reserve grade & near end of career players, outplaying us, then I will never be filled with optomism that we have sorted out our past GF issues of the past.

We are in no way better than the 2024 team that sat at 13 & 1 after 14 games & losing the 15th game by 1point to the Dockers. We were flying at 13 wins & 1 loss & a percentage of 149%.
Right now we are 8 & 1 & 157%. I'm sorry but I still don't see a capacity to defend opposition momentum & stall it immediately as p'ship ship threats do. Adam Simpson knows it. Ken Hinkley knows it. When plan A gets taken away from us, we try to persist in making plan A work. Before we know it, the opposition put a gap between us & the players lose the ability to stay calm. That component seems much better this year but we still have pretty much the same lot who failed twice out there.
Sorry my fellow Swan supporters. I live in hope more than belief but no Heeney last week & this week & we were done.

I just wonder whether cox is holding back on the contested game. We saw vs Gold Coast a ferocious near 100 tackles and no contested marks. A small ground made that easier of course.

Until then I think it’s run and gun and handball. Can’t reveal everything before finals.

Resting policy is also good but it impacts performance for sure. But you bank the wins.

 

[robbieando]

Found a few clips of the outrage circling on twitter

Maybe stick the ****ing tackle would be the starting point if you’re going to complain

 

[Wheresbuddy]

Mclean's game today was better than all the games Charlie has played for us other than the one against WB. In particular, his ability to come forward to the ball, mark and convert was impressive. Charlie has been sitting out the back and he has been inaccurate.

 

[wolftone57]

Thats being touted on social media as the tipping point for the result as we kicked a goal shortly afterwards

E held onto the ball according to the replay and the tackle dropped off. He shrugged out of the tackle. It was Revolting who kept saying he dropped the ball. The replay CLEARLY says he DIDN'T.

 

[wolftone57]

A few soft umpiring calls their way in last 5mins gave them more of a sniff than they deserved otherwise

Yes 8 frees in the last 6.5 minutes

 

[Punts]

Mclean's game today was better than all the games Charlie has played for us other than the one against WB. In particular, his ability to come forward to the ball, mark and convert was impressive. Charlie has been sitting out the back and he has been inaccurate.

You can’t say that

 

[wolftone57]

Almost a trip then heeney still has the ball when wardlaws let go

Seen way worse get over it north losers
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That was actually legging. And it dropped off without Heeney ever dropping the ball

 

[Millky95]

I liked Edwards a lot. He will be a player

Bice and Coottee in a stint in the 2s. Ideally for Serong and Co. Warner (he seemed to have a big game in to 2s)

We slipped over a lot which is really frustrating

McLean earned another game if Curnow needs another week

We need to sort out our clearance work. Blakey being at a few CBAs was odd

We seemed to struggle with the switch. Both the Hawks and North took a lot of uncontest marks switching up the play and we didn't cope. Something we need to work on, imo

 

[Donza]

Mclean's game today was better than all the games Charlie has played for us other than the one against WB. In particular, his ability to come forward to the ball, mark and convert was impressive. Charlie has been sitting out the back and he has been inaccurate.

Of the hottest takes. This would be up there

Curnow is legit one of the most important players in the comp.

 

[wolftone57]

If Blakey isn't in the back 6 where is he going to play?

I don't think the implication is he leaves the backs. I think it was a comment about him being a lock down player. He is not that. He is an attacking back and we don,'t want to fall into the mistake Longmire made with making him lockdown a forward. Make them put a defensive forward in him by encouraging him to attack.

 

[Jewelsbon]

Mclean's game today was better than all the games Charlie has played for us other than the one against WB. In particular, his ability to come forward to the ball, mark and convert was impressive. Charlie has been sitting out the back and he has been inaccurate.

Do you think that was maybe because the defenders were more worried about and therefore paying a lot more attention to Amartey rather than McLean? It appeared to me that without Charlie there, they were a whole lot more worried about Joel than good old titanic Hayden.

 

[The King!]

That was actually legging. And it dropped off without Heeney ever dropping the ball

Yep he started fair though

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

One who has surprised me is Gus.
He has adapted to the running game beautifully and is kicking goals as well. I didn’t think he had that in him.

Has to be close to most improved on the list. Really happy for him, you can see he feels like he belongs and the confidence helps

 

[caesar88]

We're now up to 16 times a Swans player has kicked 3+ this season, and McLean becomes the tenth individual Swans player to do so.

The system is so much bigger and better than any of the individuals within it at the moment.

(Not that the individuals are bad at all.)

 

[wolftone57]

Mclean's game today was better than all the games Charlie has played for us other than the one against WB. In particular, his ability to come forward to the ball, mark and convert was impressive. Charlie has been sitting out the back and he has been inaccurate.

He missed a sitter. Went OOF. Amartey missed two sitters. Usually Joel is a really good shot at goal but occasionally he can do some shitty kicks. I think Haydos is hit or miss at the best of times. But he usually kicks easy shots well. Not today. He did kick goals though.

I am more worried about our mids than either backs or forwards. We were really murdered in the mids today. Lack of pressure, set ups wrong. But more importantly, your mids are never going to get space if they are held all day. North got away with holding our players back from the contest. At stoppages and throw INS they had several players who were not on ball come to the contest and hold our mids back while their top mids took the ball.

 

[Tedeski]

Maybe stick the ****ing tackle would be the starting point if you’re going to complain

Absofkinglutely stick the tackle first & not let it slide to a trip you idiot Riedwolt. I couldn’t believe that.

 

[RUNVS]

We're now up to 16 times a Swans player has kicked 3+ this season, and McLean becomes the tenth individual Swans player to do so.

The system is so much bigger and better than any of the individuals within it at the moment.

(Not that the individuals are bad at all.)

 

[wilsonmatic]

momentum & stall it immediately as p'ship ship threats do. Adam Simpson knows it. Ken Hinkley knows it. When plan A gets taken away from us, we try to persist in making plan A work. Before we know it, the opposition put a gap between us & the players lose the ability to stay calm. That component seems much better this year but we still have pretty much the same lot who failed twice out there.
Sorry my fellow Swan supporters. I live in hope more than belief but no Heeney last week & this week & we were done.

Yep my thoughts. I feel like we have 1 style of play where as Brisbane has 3 different modes they can play in any given match.

 

[Neverwas]

Mclean's game today was better than all the games Charlie has played for us other than the one against WB. In particular, his ability to come forward to the ball, mark and convert was impressive. Charlie has been sitting out the back and he has been inaccurate.

Charlie sitting down back is what has opened up the forward line for the other forwards.

 

[The King!]

Yep my thoughts. I feel like we have 1 style of play where as Brisbane has 3 different modes they can play in any given match.

The team that Carlton almost ran over last night ? They only just beat North too.

Yes they are an amazing team the last few years but they aren't perfect either, who else Hawthorn barely beat port , Dockers just beat the pies and crows etc.

Not saying we were great today and don't have demons but all these other top sides have issues too, yes Brisbane know they are good from the past 2 years but it's no guarantee of success.

We
Sometimes (me included) spend all this time praising the other good sides yet somehow we sit above them all for now . Yes we choked in two recent grand finals, but this current Hawks side and Dockers side haven't got near the day for instance .

 

[wolftone57]

Do you think that was maybe because the defenders were more worried and therefore paying a lot more attention to Amartey rather than McLean? It appeared to me that without Charlie there, they were a whole lot more worried about Joel than good old titanic Hayden.

Yes I think that's the case. They had two players flying against Joel all day. Two following him around. But I have to say, McLean and Joel were far too close to each other most of the day. Same with McDonald. They just slipped into 2024, instead of 2026,which is spread and conquer.

We kicked too many times long. Amartey made some really great leads to the left side pocket HFF and was ignored every time. He is really good from that pocket.