Autopsy AFL 2021 Round 7 - Swans v Cats Sat May 1st 7:25pm EST (SCG)

Who will win and by how much?

  • Swans by a goal or less

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Cats by a goal or less

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Swans by 7 - 20

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cats by 7 - 20

    Votes: 5 33.3%
  • Swans by a lot

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Cats by a lot

    Votes: 7 46.7%
  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    15
  • Poll closed .

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Whiskers

Norm Smith Medallist
Oct 16, 2006
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Lol at the anti Geelong rubbish in here.
2 free kicks on the siren but people in here try to justify it with previous calls or bad kicking. These justifications weren’t given to us despite the umpires giving Brisbane 10 shots on goal to our 1.

That wasn’t touched and even if it was called touched (which I didn’t hear)
You don’t even need to say not 15 if it’s touched. It’s just touched play on.
Not 15m though... wow.
HTB also, no attempt. Umpires get HTB wrong all the time. Like when Jordan Clark wasn’t rewarded v Brisbane.

Just because we got away with one in the Brisbane game at the end isn’t justice or Karma. Do Brisbane get the 4 points back? And Sydney owe how many premiership points now? The 4 v Essendon and the 4 tonight?
Also where’s the karma for Barry Hall playing in a GF when he didn’t deserve to?
Point is I hardly think Sydney should be getting ‘justice’ for anything, especially something on Brisbane’s behalf.
 

PCORF

Norm Smith Medallist
Jul 3, 2007
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I think there were some crucial missed calls. Geelong played better but blew their chances in front of goal. Swans gutted out the victory and survived a 50/50 call and I thought Cameron had that mark. Sydney at 5-2 are starting to remind me of 2012 Adelaide, this is a huge win for them and will have to fancy their chances against a likely unbeaten Melbourne. They seem to pull off these wins when they are underdogs.
 

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BloodRet

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just got home, absolute limbs. the thing is if the cameron mark was paid (which it should have been, went well over 15m), he would've had to have kept a straight line in the run up of his kick otherwise it would've been called play-on after the siren went. so doubt he would've kicked it anyway with that considered. crazy finish
 

Magnum27

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People aren't serious with wanting holding the ball played at the end, they hadn't paid it that quick during the game, the boundary throw in was with 6 seconds left on the clock by the time the Swans player got it 3 seconds at best would have been left on the clock, no holding the call i've seen is paid with in 3 seconds, and i thought i heard touch called on the other.
 

CrowInFiji

Club Legend
Sep 29, 2018
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It was the 2nd time tonight I saw such an instance

The other was the Hawkins set shot on goal 5 minutes earlier
he backed off skirting the contest, and needed the goal umpire to tell him wtf happened so they could give Sydney the kick.

Same boundary too I believe.
How many games has he done?
 

dean33

Brownlow Medallist
Oct 10, 2007
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Lol at the anti Geelong rubbish in here.
2 free kicks on the siren but people in here try to justify it with previous calls or bad kicking. These justifications weren’t given to us despite the umpires giving Brisbane 10 shots on goal to our 1.

That wasn’t touched and even if it was called touched (which I didn’t hear)
You don’t even need to say not 15 if it’s touched. It’s just touched play on.
Not 15m though... wow.
HTB also, no attempt. Umpires get HTB wrong all the time. Like when Jordan Clark wasn’t rewarded v Brisbane.

Just because we got away with one in the Brisbane game at the end isn’t justice or Karma. Do Brisbane get the 4 points back? And Sydney owe how many premiership points now? The 4 v Essendon and the 4 tonight?
Also where’s the karma for Barry Hall playing in a GF when he didn’t deserve to?
Point is I hardly think Sydney should be getting ‘justice’ for anything, especially something on Brisbane’s behalf.
I love that you have gone back 16 years with the Barry Hall call. Kudos.
 
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Andronicus

Brownlow Medallist
Sep 28, 2007
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Essendon
Journos and Chris Scott are saying it was denied because it didn't go 15m.

Interestingly, John Longmire says "I'm not saying anything about the umpires, I know that."

Of course you wouldn't John. They handed you a game earlier that you shouldn't have won, and last night could very easily have gone the other way too.
 

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Roby

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Hahaha got reamed the whole game and finally get a couple of 50/50 calls at the end.
I wouldn't say the last call against Cameron was 50/50 call, clearly a mark that is paid 99.9% of the time. Baffling call to say the least.

I agree with your former point.
 

ashep

Premiership Player
Jun 15, 2014
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I wouldn't say the last call against Cameron was 50/50 call, clearly a mark that is paid 99.9% of the time. Baffling call to say the least.

I agree with your former point.
If it was not 15, I'll agree. That mark gets paid all day every day.

But there was a reverse angle that showed the umpire next to the kick physically signalling touched off the boot. Bit of a strange one.
 

Roddy

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Lol at the anti Geelong rubbish in here.
2 free kicks on the siren but people in here try to justify it with previous calls or bad kicking. These justifications weren’t given to us despite the umpires giving Brisbane 10 shots on goal to our 1.

That wasn’t touched and even if it was called touched (which I didn’t hear)
You don’t even need to say not 15 if it’s touched. It’s just touched play on.
Not 15m though... wow.
HTB also, no attempt. Umpires get HTB wrong all the time. Like when Jordan Clark wasn’t rewarded v Brisbane.

Just because we got away with one in the Brisbane game at the end isn’t justice or Karma. Do Brisbane get the 4 points back? And Sydney owe how many premiership points now? The 4 v Essendon and the 4 tonight?
Also where’s the karma for Barry Hall playing in a GF when he didn’t deserve to?
Point is I hardly think Sydney should be getting ‘justice’ for anything, especially something on Brisbane’s behalf.
You didn't hear it because you didn't WANT to hear it. Re-visit it in the sober light of day. It's pretty damn clear, the umpy says it at least twice. It was the dopey commentators that were hyping up the 'not 15m' nonsense.
AFL news 2021: Sydney Swans defeat Geelong Cats, Jeremy Cameron not paid a mark, 15m rule, Joel Selwood (foxsports.com.au)
And the duckwood tackle was 50-50, could easily have been high. It wasn't adjudged high because it was duckwood.
You have not been robbed, the correct result was reached.
 

Roby

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Pretty sure you can't call holding the ball after the siren guys. He did not have it anywhere near long enough to warrant that call.
Selwood was even tackling, just had his hand on him like the moron he is expecting the call to go his way. No wonder he can't win finals recently.
 

Grand Uncle Horace

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Case 1 Haywood takes what he believes to be a mark, overruled by one Ump who says touched play on - Haywood pinged for HTB!

Case 2 Cameron takes what he believes to be a mark. One ump had called touched and another not 15. He drops the ball over the line. Should have been pinged for dropping the ball/deliberate.

I am not an ump basher, but still remember a formal letter of apology being sent to Bloods after a certain GF. Otherwise you win and lose some.

I was however cranky with how the rub of the green went the Cats way the bulk of the night. There were two clear 50s that should have been paid. Hopefully the AFL review the deliberate very late hit and punch to McInerney's face after he marked. (he still calmly slotted the goal). The second was a late hit from behind after Stephens marked the ball on the Cats HFF.

I was really filthy when we were penalised for deliberate knocking the ball out of bounds. 4th Ump Selwood was running the decisions at that stage. The resultant passage of play ended with a Dahlhaus goal.

We can go tit for tat for days but the scoreboard will remain unchanged.

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Commiserations to the Cats. With the talent at their disposal (inc young Henry who played a great game) they will be there again in September.

At Round 7 we have already equalled our win total from 2020. The remarkable Hickey aside, our best players were the younger crew. Whether we sneak a Finals spot remains to be seen. A lot of luck inc with the Injury Gods will be required. In what is really still a development year, we have already defeated the two 2020 GF teams and the Brions.
 

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