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He is actively hurting their games in favour of guys like Frampton, Kelly and Mackay.
Has to be tanking.
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He is actively hurting their games in favour of guys like Frampton, Kelly and Mackay.
Has to be tanking.
WCE will likely have more goals than we will have I50s....
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May have merrit if you have a dominant midfield and the right back 6. With our bottom 4 midfield getting smashed it makes no sense.
Yes. Exactly. I think he hasn't quite joined the dots on how an elite midfield forces dirty entries so a medium backline can mop up and rebound.
Compared to an op shop midfield of rookie picks and repurposed discards from other clubs where you actually need tall defenders to intervene in the air or on the body because ball is coming in regularly and cleanly to their forwards.
Classic case of trying to import a system that worked somewhere else without all the parts.
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What's also bizarre is that generally when you go smaller in defense you do so to fit in: a) versatile players that can play tall or small and b) fast ground level players with elite skills to rebound off half back.
Our hybrid/medium defenders are not capable of playing tall or small. As much as people want Kelly to be that player, the reality is he is only good at defending players of a similar height and athletic profile to himself. Doedee as well is proving not to be a tall defender but is somewhat more versatile on the smaller players.
As for our rebound off half back, just a few weeks ago Nicks idea of this was to play Smith, Mackay and... that's it. Only now are we bringing in Hamill (back from injury) and Jones but for some reason we are keeping Mackay in the side who offers neither small defensive work nor rebound.
If you go with this smaller one KPD defense you need to make sure you have these versatile play-on-any-size players (think Dane Rampe) surrounded by rebounders. We have been playing far too many lockdown and/or mediocre inflexible types (Kelly, Brown, McPherson, Mackay) for that strategy to work
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Mackay out for Murray and these would have been the right changes. As others have said, it's insane that don't have we a second KPD, especially this week.
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Backline is too small yet again. Worrell is seriously unlucky to not debut the last month. Not really sure why we drafted him if he doesn't get an opportunity. Should ask for a trade end of year as it's obviously his only option to get a game. You could easily swap Worrell for Kelly and bring Murray in for Mackay to fix our height problem down back. We know Kelly has limitations so why not give an opportunity to a player that may be better.
This structure would allow Doedee to shine and possibly allow us to pinch-hit him in the midfield. If he plays well in there he could be the missing big bodied mid we need. Having Doedee and O'Connor in there could free up some of our smaller mids to be more damaging. I could possibly see Doedee developing into a Bontempelli role. This would allow us to play Sloane more up forward were he can be damaging. It would also put more pressure on Keays to improve his skills and goal scoring opportunities.
McAdam was putrid last week so his inclusion exposes our lack of genuine quality depth in that position. Nick's stated as much in his presser and mentioned it was a key focus in the mid season draft.
Mackay playing each week is stupidity but once he was recontracted I knew this would be the end result.
Frampton is just as bad as Berg. Maybe he will fumble a ball to ground for one of our other forwards to feed off.
Happy with the O'Connor inclusion. Will be a better mid for us than Hately and is a much better mid than Fogarty ever will be. Looks on paper to be the best midfield we have played all year imo. Leave Fogarty in the position he is which is a forward for the rest of the year to see if he can play. If that means "resting" Walker for the remainder of the year then so be it. If Walker gets over his injuries soon bring him in for Frampton or Berg and play Walker up the ground in the Lynch role with TT and Fogarty as your keys.
Lastly I don't think Nick's is doing a good job of maximising our squad to its full capacity. Needs to lift his game or it won't end well for his coaching career. I understand we have injuries but that's an opportunity to show your wares as a coach.
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But we can't get him the ball enough, so we're teaching him to go and win it
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Doedee yes, but he's actually trying to add to Fogartys
He'll be i50 today a fair bit but that's not gonna help him.
Giving The WA boys a home game is kindergarten stuff.
You can make a case for OConnor and Frampton.
But absolutely you cannot make a case for McAdam selection.
Absolutely never got near the ball or look like applying pressure in AFL and gave nothing in SANFL.
However if decides to lead rather than stand behind looking for MOY well might do something .
Not bringing A tall into defence against Eagles is worse than crazy and killing Doedee .
You can make a case for OConnor and Frampton.
But absolutely you cannot make a case for McAdam selection.
Absolutely never got near the ball or look like applying pressure in AFL and gave nothing in SANFL.
However if decides to lead rather than stand behind looking for MOY well might do something .
Not bringing A tall into defence against Eagles is worse than crazy and killing Doedee .
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Who's going to do that if not McAdam ??
How about Fogarty finding a way to get the ball in his own hands?
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Anybody.
Himmelberg for all criticism did a lot more than McAdam did in his games .
Murray did a good job when send there for part of Qtr .
Worrell certainly would and then Pedlar etc could also.
MC is baffling. Refusal to play a second KPD over 190cm makes no sense whatsoever.
Seedsman up forward? What's the point?! He's finally fit and firing again. Not in career best form, but at least he's a consistent performer through the midfield in a struggling side.
He's not a forwards a** hole imo, and seems like one of the worst choices to take out of the midfield and plonk to forward graveyard, where he will most likely have 0 impact on the game. We can't find a leading target to save our life and are back to bombing it aimlessly into the 50, what good is that for Seedsman. At least in the midfield his long kicking is still a weapon in getting out the back or being a threat from 60m+, forcing our opponents to defend a larger area of the ground consequently opening up more space in the 50.
I'm so confused as to what we are trying to achieve...
Seedsman up forward? What's the point?! He's finally fit and firing again. Not in career best form, but at least he's a consistent performer through the midfield in a struggling side.
He's not a forwards a** hole imo, and seems like one of the worst choices to take out of the midfield and plonk to forward graveyard, where he will most likely have 0 impact on the game. We can't find a leading target to save our life and are back to bombing it aimlessly into the 50, what good is that for Seedsman. At least in the midfield his long kicking is still a weapon in getting out the back or being a threat from 60m+, forcing our opponents to defend a larger area of the ground consequently opening up more space in the 50.
I'm so confused as to what we are trying to achieve...
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He won't play forward
Isn't that the line the club has been running with all week? Both Rahilly and Smithers touched on it didnt they?
Still can't believe why we are playing 1 KPD against the Eagles of all teams. It's been dumb all year and even dumber today. Guarenteed loss coming up. I won't say it was lost at selection like previous weeks but it certainly will make the scoreline uglier.
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Now that is something I would like to see ... maybe he can get it out of centre and kick to himself on the lead?
we will have one when Talia returns.
there was a chance we wouldn't use him but once he's in and gathering his 15 meaningless touches, 5 from kick outs, he's not going to be dropped. Would totally destroy the club to treat a champ like that. Especially if he's not playing that bad.
it's totally not about winning. Why would that even enter your mind?
we accept it doesn't look good on game day, but if you just came and watched him train
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people have been hoping for a late change or that we've been playing funny buggers and a tall forward will actually be playing as a key defender. If Worrell has travelled, he might as well be sub, I'm sure given the choice, that's the way he'd go.
