Preview Changes round 9 vs West Coast Eagles

[FR0GGY]

I think I understand it now.

When someone in our squad is learning to play in the AFL ... If they don't hit the level immediately, we scream at them and send them packing.

Got it.

OUT: everyone who has played under 100 games and never got a top ten in the B&F ... Except Thilthorpe.

IN: Imaginery ready made superstars.

Phew, this is easier than I thought! I was under the delusion that a full rebuild was going to be a long painful journey filled with lessons and bad losses.

Nice melt

 

[Anzacpaul]

Do we want to give TT a week off with the knee? Not worth risking further damage in my opinion.

 

[Hugh Jass]

I say just play Newchurch. Charlie Cameron never set the world on fire before his debut, far from it.

Do we rate him as a talent? If yes (which by all reports is the case), give him a crack.

 

[VictorianCrow85]

Am I the only one who now gets nervous anytime Hamill is near the ball? Last year loved what I saw this year just seems squib literally everything up both with & without the ball. McPherson not a lot better either. Hopefully just a slump for them both.

 

[mattymac]

With Murphy and Ned out, Newchurch will debut.

Surely

 

[mattymac]

Berry permanent forward, someone that can stick a tackle and delivers high pressure. O'Connor preferably or Hately into the midfield mix,

Just wondering if you've seen Berry's 'goal kicking'

Hint: 1 goal 8 behinds

 

[Mutineer]

Just wondering if you've seen Berry's 'goal kicking'

Hint: 1 goal 8 behinds

Yeah I have but off of a far bigger sample than you have.

 

[thebirdman 24]

Pretty common for first year players. I think we give it a go as he finds the ball in dangerous areas. After a few go in the middle his confidence will rise. I don't think his kicking is bad per se, he just needs some confidence and composure. I see him as a Sloane clone who isn't known for his disposal but is very efficient.

Just wondering if you've seen Berry's 'goal kicking'

Hint: 1 goal 8 behinds

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[mattymac]

Yeah I have but off of a far bigger sample than you have.

Not at AFL level you haven't

 

[Mutineer]

Not at AFL level you haven't

2019 SCOUTING NOTES:
2019 NAB League Round 17 vs. Bendigo

By: Peter Williams

The bottom-age midfielder provided a number of highlights in the game, able to gain separation from his opponents in midfield and hit targets forward of centre. He created a goal for Riley Baldi, kicking well inside 50, and then showed off his lovely left foot again – playing on to hit-up another target later in the game inside 50. He ran hard throughout and took a courageous mark back with the flight early in the third term.

2019 Under 17 Futures vs. NSW/ACT

By: Ed Pascoe

Berry was his team’s standout player with his grunt work in the middle setting the tone for the day. His work rate with and without the ball was impressive and that carried on for the four quarters. He would also hit the scoreboard with his goal coming from reading the play to mark 40 metres out to slot the nice goal.

His clearance work was great but it was also his skill with ball in hand that stood out, and despite looking like the type to just win the hard ball and bomb it, he actually took the time to hit his targets on both feet. His only real blemish was an ambitious kick in the corridor on his opposite foot. Berry finished the game with 23 disposals, six tackles, six clearances and a goal in a complete performance through the midfield.

2019 NAB League Round 13 vs. Northern

By: Craig Byrnes

A typically tough, in and under day for the bottom-age midfielder. Starting at the centre bounces, Berry got involved inside 50 during the first term with a nice goal assist to Tom Fitzpatrick by hand. He got busier through the midfield in the second quarter, somehow stealing a clearance seemingly straight out of the hands of an opponent before sending the ball forward.

His possessions were heavy, which occasionally lead to him rushing the ball forward and producing some messy disposals. He fought hard though and was one of Gippsland better players, collecting 21 disposals and laying five tackles.

2019 NAB League Round 12 vs. Geelong

By: Peter Williams

A match-winning effort by the small midfielder who put together a terrific four quarter performance. He showed great thinking under pressure with quick hands and was able to balance well between offensive and defensive work.

He laid a massive amount of tackles, and booted three goals – all of which came from tackles. His first goal came in the second quarter, nailing the set shot with a Ben Brown-like run-up from 55m, while the last two came back-to-back at a crucial time in the last quarter, converting set shots from 40m and 30m out respectively. His last quarter was special and he is so strong one-on-one for his size.

2019 NAB League Round 11 vs. Oakleigh

By: Craig Byrnes

The in-and-under bottom-ager was one of many relevant players returning to the Gippsland fold and he continued on from where he left off earlier in the season. He is a competitor who does the heavy work on the inside with determination, often getting first hands on the footy cleanly and extracting to advantage.

Berry has a physical presence defensively and ensures his opponent doesn’t get an easy touch. I loved his overhead work on Saturday too, taking a great contested mark in the corridor under pressure and backing that up with a leaping effort at half back in the last. One of the better players on the ground finishing with 26 disposals and five tackles.

 

[mattymac]

2019 SCOUTING NOTES:
2019 NAB League Round 17 vs. Bendigo

By: Peter Williams

The bottom-age midfielder provided a number of highlights in the game, able to gain separation from his opponents in midfield and hit targets forward of centre. He created a goal for Riley Baldi, kicking well inside 50, and then showed off his lovely left foot again – playing on to hit-up another target later in the game inside 50. He ran hard throughout and took a courageous mark back with the flight early in the third term.

2019 Under 17 Futures vs. NSW/ACT

By: Ed Pascoe

Berry was his team’s standout player with his grunt work in the middle setting the tone for the day. His work rate with and without the ball was impressive and that carried on for the four quarters. He would also hit the scoreboard with his goal coming from reading the play to mark 40 metres out to slot the nice goal.

His clearance work was great but it was also his skill with ball in hand that stood out, and despite looking like the type to just win the hard ball and bomb it, he actually took the time to hit his targets on both feet. His only real blemish was an ambitious kick in the corridor on his opposite foot. Berry finished the game with 23 disposals, six tackles, six clearances and a goal in a complete performance through the midfield.

2019 NAB League Round 13 vs. Northern

By: Craig Byrnes

A typically tough, in and under day for the bottom-age midfielder. Starting at the centre bounces, Berry got involved inside 50 during the first term with a nice goal assist to Tom Fitzpatrick by hand. He got busier through the midfield in the second quarter, somehow stealing a clearance seemingly straight out of the hands of an opponent before sending the ball forward.

His possessions were heavy, which occasionally lead to him rushing the ball forward and producing some messy disposals. He fought hard though and was one of Gippsland better players, collecting 21 disposals and laying five tackles.

2019 NAB League Round 12 vs. Geelong

By: Peter Williams

A match-winning effort by the small midfielder who put together a terrific four quarter performance. He showed great thinking under pressure with quick hands and was able to balance well between offensive and defensive work.

He laid a massive amount of tackles, and booted three goals – all of which came from tackles. His first goal came in the second quarter, nailing the set shot with a Ben Brown-like run-up from 55m, while the last two came back-to-back at a crucial time in the last quarter, converting set shots from 40m and 30m out respectively. His last quarter was special and he is so strong one-on-one for his size.

2019 NAB League Round 11 vs. Oakleigh

By: Craig Byrnes

The in-and-under bottom-ager was one of many relevant players returning to the Gippsland fold and he continued on from where he left off earlier in the season. He is a competitor who does the heavy work on the inside with determination, often getting first hands on the footy cleanly and extracting to advantage.

Berry has a physical presence defensively and ensures his opponent doesn’t get an easy touch. I loved his overhead work on Saturday too, taking a great contested mark in the corridor under pressure and backing that up with a leaping effort at half back in the last. One of the better players on the ground finishing with 26 disposals and five tackles.

Relevance? AFL pressure obviously turns his goal kicking to water

 

[Mutineer]

Relevance? AFL pressure obviously turns his goal kicking to water

How many AFL games is that again?

 

[Vader]

Himmelberg is a tricky one

Did bugger all but was the only one of our tall forwards who was able to make a contest and bring it to ground at all

Everyone else just got out marked.

Still, when he brought it to ground the ball just got instantly swept away anyway so it makes little difference

That happens when you lose 2x small forwards before quarter time.

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[Trigger13]

Knew there would be a comment like that.

Newchurch should not be debuting. Sends the wrong message. Nowhere near ready. I doubt he makes it based on what I’ve seen.

 

[Mutineer]

Newchurch should not be debuting. Sends the wrong message. Nowhere near ready. I doubt he makes it based on what I’ve seen.

I agree with some of this but way way too early to be making a call on his future.

 

[Trigger13]

I agree with some of this but way way too early to be making a call on his future.

You’re right. Very early. I’m just very concerned about his lack of hardness — or at the very least pressure game, which he should be better at given his speed and agility.

 

[Mutineer]

You’re right. Very early. I’m just very concerned about his lack of hardness — or at the very least pressure game, which he should be better at given his speed and agility.

It is a concern no doubt but that's where Marco Bello mostly and our coaching staff must get to work because Tariek has supreme athleticism and natural football ability if it can be harnessed.

 

[mattymac]

How many AFL games is that again?

1 goal 8 mate. Call to make him a permanent forward is not your best call.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

In: McAsey, Jones, McAdam, Worrell, Hately/O'Connor
Out: Murphy (inj.), McHenry (inj.), Mackay (sub), Himmelberg, Hamill

McPherson to SANFL.

Fish needs to come in, if not, Murray in the very least. It's going to be a tough ask as it is and going in with an undersized defence against West Coast will result in a bloodbath. Himmelberg is not up to it and is the final nail in the 2016 draft coffin. A complete disaster of a draft.

Jones looks to have found his feet across HB. Time to give him a go and demote Mackay to the sub. A mediocre 32, soon to be 33, year old has no place in the starting 18 of a rebuilding side.

With two of our small forwards injured, one of McAdam and Newchurch comes in. McAdam was a passenger but Newchurch still looks miles off AFL.

Worrell needs to play, even though I doubt he will come in. If he wasn't selected after best on or top 5 performances in the SANFL, then they won't after a down day.

Either bring Hately back and give him a more extended run (I.e not 2 matches) or debut O'Connor. He's tall, tackles well, has a decent turn of pace and is clean below his knees.

B: Brown Butts Doedee
HB: Smith McAsey Jones
C: Sholl Keays Seedsman
HF: Fogarty Walker Berry
F: Rowe Thilthorpe McAdam
Foll: ROB Laird Sloane
I/C: Schoenberg Kelly O'Connor/Hately Worrell

 

[Mutineer]

1 goal 8 mate. Call to make him a permanent forward is not your best call.

Who's talking a permanent forward other than when we have our other 2 small pressure forwards out of action....perhaps you'd like to see the ball waltzed out of forward line like yesterday when McHenry and Murphy went down?

If you have a better solution for next week I'm all ears.

 

[mattymac]

Who's talking a permanent forward other than when we have our other 2 small pressure forwards out of action....perhaps you'd like to see the ball waltzed out of forward line like yesterday when McHenry and Murphy went down?

If you have a better solution for next week I'm all ears.

Berry permanent forward, someone that can stick a tackle and delivers high pressure. O'Connor preferably or Hately into the midfield mix,

 

[Mutineer]

Are you really that dim or just being a smart ass, that was while McHenry and Murphy are unavailable with O'Connor or Hately moving into the midfield mix.

 

[Crowboto]

In: The next 3 drafts.

God help us we are a mile off.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

So can we please please play an extra tall defender so we can free up Doedee!

the Dude is now looking bog average and it’s simply because we are not allowing him to play to his strengths.

this then has flow on effects for all the other defenders.

our defensive structure is about as bad as it possibly could be

 

[Mutineer]

So can we please please play an extra tall defender so we can free up Doedee!

the Dude is now looking bog average and it’s simply because we are not allowing him to play to his strengths.

this then has flow on effects for all the other defenders.

our defensive structure is about as bad as it possibly could be

Scott Burns is in charge of defence?