VFL Round 6 - Collingwood vs Box Hill at Olympic Park Oval (Pies lost 76-102)

[loki04]

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So that makes 34, 35 and 41 hovering around 80% DE (DE *clauses a given).

 

[Apex36]

Some ridiculous numbers there.
Berg - 41
Ramsay - 38
Broomhead - 37
Langdon - 34
Thomas - 31
Brown - 29

Looking at disposal numbers like that you'd think we'd have won if you didn't know better

 

[loki04]

Some ridiculous numbers there.
Berg - 41
Ramsay - 38
Broomhead - 37
Langdon - 34
Thomas - 31
Brown - 29

Looking at disposal numbers like that you'd think we'd have won if you didn't know better

Most likely not playing direct footy, too much chip and slow switching. Probably like the seniors in the first half.

 

[Stoods]

HOLY SH*T

41 TOUCHES, GET HIM IN NOW!

Ramsay also looks like he had a very impressive game. I am a big believer in Ramsay, only played 15 games of footy and has had 2 ACL'S? Or 1? Either way, he is still very inexperienced, i think he will come good.

 

[Anzacday]

Broomy 7 tackles - good on him.

 

[Apex36]

Most likely not playing direct footy, too much chip and slow switching. Probably like the seniors in the first half.

The kick to handball ratio of Broomhead and especially Langdon, is very telling imo. Langdon should be having a lot more kicks given where he plays. Berg was really our only high possession winner who had a good kick/handball ratio.

 

[Apex36]

HOLY SH*T

41 TOUCHES, GET HIM IN NOW!

Ramsay also looks like he had a very impressive game. I am a big believer in Ramsay, only played 15 games of footy and has had 2 ACL'S? Or 1? Either way, he is still very inexperienced, i think he will come good.

1 ACL. Berg had 2.

 

[Number 10]

Mayne 12 touches 0.0.
Not even a shadow of a doubt that this guy is the worst pick up we've ever had.

 

[Stoods]

Mayne 12 touches 0.0.
Not even a shadow of a doubt that this guy is the worst pick up we've ever had.

Yup, bloody pathetic, thank god it didnt cost us anything pick wise but far out that contract was a joke. If the rumours are true... Get stuffed Gubby

 

[MagpieBat]

Mayne 12 touches 0.0.
Not even a shadow of a doubt that this guy is the worst pick up we've ever had.

Against Ryan Schoenmakers...

 

[spartan-magpie]

To those who watched the game, how did Byron Kirby go? What's that now, the fourth occasion he's kicked 3 or more goals in a game?

Can't wait to see Kayle light it on the G.

 

[TradeDraft]

Would Shaz have had over 30 again?

Heard he had 41 Touches

 

[TradeDraft]

Add a year to that. Won't play a senior game this year, and likely to only play a handful next year.

He's super raw though, but that raw talent is impressive in very small patches. That pack mark and goal in the second quarter is almost his career highlight so far. And if he can do it once, he can do it again.

Won't be a senior regular till 2019 at earliest though, a real project player that needs time.

Depends IF we Recurit any KPF in the next Off-Season or not

 

[MagpieBat]

Heard he had 41 Touches

It's no joke or hearsay...

 

[pablo disco bar]

Why, he's a bust?

Yup so far he is.....things will hopefully change..4 games is a bust i dont apologize for saying this nor feel like its a wr9ng comment

 

[Scodog10]

207 kicks and 224 handballs. Never going to win when we overpossess so much!

 

[TW Sherrin]

I think he can replace Maynard on a half back and Maynard can move to a wing- Wells on the other. Sidey and WHE can move to HFF

maynard has some genuine toe at times so I couldn't play Shaz in his place.

 

[TW Sherrin]

Goldsack can play forward, would offer more pressure acts than number 11 as an example

I understand I am in minority and this is but on last night alone (and I was a touch tired watching it at 1am) but Blair was hard at it in the second half and I thought he was a contributor. for me he's safe this week.

Agree goldy can play forward but that's not going to happen when he's playing well in the backline so.

 

[TW Sherrin]

Can he come in, and move Howe FWD ?

why would you move a guy having an AA year away from his position?

you are making the team weaker.

 

[Mkcaptain]

Just having a look at the stats, the possessions numbers don't tell you how much impact the players had. Even Shaz wasn't as influential was what the stats suggest he was. Crocker was one of our more influential players and looking at the stats you'd have thought he barely touched the ball.

Speaking of kick to handball ratios, Kirgy had 12 kicks and 1 handball. But I've noticed that when he gets the ball he can be a bit slow to make a decision. So rather than giving the quick hands off he can take a bit too long and is forced into kicking the ball when the quick hands was the better option. It was still a very exciting game yesterday though.

 

[TradeDraft]

Just having a look at the stats, the possessions numbers don't tell you how much impact the players had. Even Shaz wasn't as influential was what the stats suggest he was. Crocker was one of our more influential players and looking at the stats you'd have thought he barely touched the ball.

Speaking of kick to handball ratios, Kirgy had 12 kicks and 1 handball. But I've noticed that when he gets the ball he can be a bit slow to make a decision. So rather than giving the quick hands off he can take a bit too long and is forced into kicking the ball when the quick hands was the better option. It was still a very exciting game yesterday though.

Stats only tell part of the Story

 

[Mkcaptain]

Stats only tell part of the Story

If the story you're telling is that Collingwood over possessed the ball with handballs then the stats tell the full story yesterday

 

[soreplums]

maynard has some genuine toe at times so I couldn't play Shaz in his place.

Maynard's long kick Inside 50 and his own goal kicking ability will make him more dangerous on a wing. Plus, the little brain fades on the last line that cost us goals will be minimal.

He may be quicker than Shaz when the ball hits the deck, but once Varcoe comes back he will solve that problem in the backline- Plus our mids and wingmen pushing back can help with cover

 

[TW Sherrin]

Maynard's long kick Inside 50 and his own goal kicking ability will make him more dangerous on a wing. Plus, the little brain fades on the last line that cost us goals will be minimal.

He may be quicker than Shaz when the ball hits the deck, but once Varcoe comes back he will solve that problem in the backline- Plus our mids and wingmen pushing back can help with cover

agree Maynard could be a weapon on the wing but atm he has to play back. without Sinclair and varcoe we need some speed rather than another tall, which to me is what Shaz plays like.

down the track who knows.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

This is the "problem" isn't it. The two positional like for like players are playing career best seasons. Trying to bring Berg in is not as straight forward as is being made out. Where else could be play? Who else could he replace?

IS there a legitimate reason he couldn't play forward?