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advertiser - Port Adelaide news: Power chairman David Koch says club must sign Ken Hinkley before finals​

Ken Hinkley’s future has been the talk of Adelaide for the whole season, and Power chairman David Koch has given his greatest hint yet that a deal could be imminent.
Port Adelaide chairman David Koch says the club needs to sign coach Ken Hinkley before finals to avoid it becoming a distraction.
Koch said it would be “silly” not to have talks completed by September.

Suggestions emerged last week that a verbal agreement had been reached between Hinkley – in his 11th year at the helm – and the club for a three-year deal, but Koch said discussions remain ongoing.

“I won’t say anything,” he said when asked to confirm or deny the verbal agreement.
 
all seeing eye said:

Port Adelaide news: Power chairman David Koch says club must sign Ken Hinkley before finals​

Ken Hinkley’s future has been the talk of Adelaide for the whole season, and Power chairman David Koch has given his greatest hint yet that a deal could be imminent
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That headline isn't actually what he said.

I expect it will be the end result, but the headline is misleading. Koch said a decision needs to be made before finals. He didn't say what that decision would be.
 
I can't believe the Adelaide media would misrepresent comments about Port Adelaide.

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EskimoPAFC said:
Saying Ken is a good coach because he gets lots of low pressure H&A wins is like saying that a chicken is a good cakemaker because it lays lots of eggs.
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Despite Ken Hinkley's 11-year tenure without making it to a grand final or securing a premiership, there are several compelling reasons to consider extending his contract. It's important to evaluate his performance holistically, taking into account both the team's achievements and the coach's contributions behind the scenes:

  1. Consistent Performance Improvement: Over his time as coach, the team's performance has shown steady improvement. Moving from a lower position to consistently being in contention for finals demonstrates his ability to build a competitive team, foster player development, and create a strong team culture.
  2. Player Development: The coach's tenure has likely seen the development of several talented players. Even if the team hasn't won a premiership, the growth of individual players is a testament to the coach's coaching and mentoring skills. This bodes well for the team's future prospects, as these developed players can become strong assets.
  3. Stability and Continuity: Long-term stability in coaching can provide a sense of familiarity and continuity for players, which can be invaluable for team cohesion. Changing coaches frequently can disrupt the team's dynamics and hinder progress. Extending the coach's contract could promote stability and allow for the continuation of his coaching philosophy.
  4. Strong Performance this Season: The fact that the team is currently fourth on the ladder with only a few weeks until finals demonstrates that the coach has guided the team to a competitive position. This suggests that the team is making progress and could potentially have a strong showing in the upcoming finals.
  5. Influence Beyond Results: The coach's impact on the team goes beyond wins and losses. His leadership, strategic insights, and motivational skills might contribute significantly to the team's overall performance, even if it hasn't led to a premiership yet. His role in shaping team culture and fostering camaraderie among players is valuable and can have long-term positive effects.
  6. Learning from Experience: A long coaching tenure means the coach has gained significant experience over the years. He has likely learned from past mistakes and honed his coaching strategies. This experience could lead to better decision-making and improved chances of success in the future.
  7. Future Potential: While the team hasn't achieved a premiership under the current coach, the potential for success remains. Extending the contract provides the coach with the opportunity to continue building on the foundation he has laid and potentially achieve the ultimate goal of winning a premiership.
In conclusion, while the absence of a grand final appearance and premiership victory is notable, the coach's contributions in terms of team development, stability, and performance improvement over the years should not be overlooked. An extension of his contract would recognise the holistic impact he has had on the team and provide the opportunity for future successes.

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Taper said:
Despite Ken Hinkley's 11-year tenure without making it to a grand final or securing a premiership, there are several compelling reasons to consider extending his contract. It's important to evaluate his performance holistically, taking into account both the team's achievements and the coach's contributions behind the scenes:

  1. Consistent Performance Improvement: Over his time as coach, the team's performance has shown steady improvement. Moving from a lower position to consistently being in contention for finals demonstrates his ability to build a competitive team, foster player development, and create a strong team culture.
  2. Player Development: The coach's tenure has likely seen the development of several talented players. Even if the team hasn't won a premiership, the growth of individual players is a testament to the coach's coaching and mentoring skills. This bodes well for the team's future prospects, as these developed players can become strong assets.
  3. Stability and Continuity: Long-term stability in coaching can provide a sense of familiarity and continuity for players, which can be invaluable for team cohesion. Changing coaches frequently can disrupt the team's dynamics and hinder progress. Extending the coach's contract could promote stability and allow for the continuation of his coaching philosophy.
  4. Strong Performance this Season: The fact that the team is currently fourth on the ladder with only a few weeks until finals demonstrates that the coach has guided the team to a competitive position. This suggests that the team is making progress and could potentially have a strong showing in the upcoming finals.
  5. Influence Beyond Results: The coach's impact on the team goes beyond wins and losses. His leadership, strategic insights, and motivational skills might contribute significantly to the team's overall performance, even if it hasn't led to a premiership yet. His role in shaping team culture and fostering camaraderie among players is valuable and can have long-term positive effects.
  6. Learning from Experience: A long coaching tenure means the coach has gained significant experience over the years. He has likely learned from past mistakes and honed his coaching strategies. This experience could lead to better decision-making and improved chances of success in the future.
  7. Future Potential: While the team hasn't achieved a premiership under the current coach, the potential for success remains. Extending the contract provides the coach with the opportunity to continue building on the foundation he has laid and potentially achieve the ultimate goal of winning a premiership.
In conclusion, while the absence of a grand final appearance and premiership victory is notable, the coach's contributions in terms of team development, stability, and performance improvement over the years should not be overlooked. An extension of his contract would recognise the holistic impact he has had on the team and provide the opportunity for future successes.

(Written by ChatGPT)
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That's an excellent post there buddy. Thanks for sharing.
 
Taper said:
Despite Ken Hinkley's 11-year tenure without making it to a grand final or securing a premiership, there are several compelling reasons to consider extending his contract. It's important to evaluate his performance holistically, taking into account both the team's achievements and the coach's contributions behind the scenes:

  1. Consistent Performance Improvement: Over his time as coach, the team's performance has shown steady improvement. Moving from a lower position to consistently being in contention for finals demonstrates his ability to build a competitive team, foster player development, and create a strong team culture.
  2. Player Development: The coach's tenure has likely seen the development of several talented players. Even if the team hasn't won a premiership, the growth of individual players is a testament to the coach's coaching and mentoring skills. This bodes well for the team's future prospects, as these developed players can become strong assets.
  3. Stability and Continuity: Long-term stability in coaching can provide a sense of familiarity and continuity for players, which can be invaluable for team cohesion. Changing coaches frequently can disrupt the team's dynamics and hinder progress. Extending the coach's contract could promote stability and allow for the continuation of his coaching philosophy.
  4. Strong Performance this Season: The fact that the team is currently fourth on the ladder with only a few weeks until finals demonstrates that the coach has guided the team to a competitive position. This suggests that the team is making progress and could potentially have a strong showing in the upcoming finals.
  5. Influence Beyond Results: The coach's impact on the team goes beyond wins and losses. His leadership, strategic insights, and motivational skills might contribute significantly to the team's overall performance, even if it hasn't led to a premiership yet. His role in shaping team culture and fostering camaraderie among players is valuable and can have long-term positive effects.
  6. Learning from Experience: A long coaching tenure means the coach has gained significant experience over the years. He has likely learned from past mistakes and honed his coaching strategies. This experience could lead to better decision-making and improved chances of success in the future.
  7. Future Potential: While the team hasn't achieved a premiership under the current coach, the potential for success remains. Extending the contract provides the coach with the opportunity to continue building on the foundation he has laid and potentially achieve the ultimate goal of winning a premiership.
In conclusion, while the absence of a grand final appearance and premiership victory is notable, the coach's contributions in terms of team development, stability, and performance improvement over the years should not be overlooked. An extension of his contract would recognise the holistic impact he has had on the team and provide the opportunity for future successes.

(Written by ChatGPT)
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Even ChatGPT is being sarcastic now.

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Taper said:
Despite Ken Hinkley's 11-year tenure without making it to a grand final or securing a premiership, there are several compelling reasons to consider extending his contract. It's important to evaluate his performance holistically, taking into account both the team's achievements and the coach's contributions behind the scenes:

  1. Consistent Performance Improvement: Over his time as coach, the team's performance has shown steady improvement. Moving from a lower position to consistently being in contention for finals demonstrates his ability to build a competitive team, foster player development, and create a strong team culture.
  2. Player Development: The coach's tenure has likely seen the development of several talented players. Even if the team hasn't won a premiership, the growth of individual players is a testament to the coach's coaching and mentoring skills. This bodes well for the team's future prospects, as these developed players can become strong assets.
  3. Stability and Continuity: Long-term stability in coaching can provide a sense of familiarity and continuity for players, which can be invaluable for team cohesion. Changing coaches frequently can disrupt the team's dynamics and hinder progress. Extending the coach's contract could promote stability and allow for the continuation of his coaching philosophy.
  4. Strong Performance this Season: The fact that the team is currently fourth on the ladder with only a few weeks until finals demonstrates that the coach has guided the team to a competitive position. This suggests that the team is making progress and could potentially have a strong showing in the upcoming finals.
  5. Influence Beyond Results: The coach's impact on the team goes beyond wins and losses. His leadership, strategic insights, and motivational skills might contribute significantly to the team's overall performance, even if it hasn't led to a premiership yet. His role in shaping team culture and fostering camaraderie among players is valuable and can have long-term positive effects.
  6. Learning from Experience: A long coaching tenure means the coach has gained significant experience over the years. He has likely learned from past mistakes and honed his coaching strategies. This experience could lead to better decision-making and improved chances of success in the future.
  7. Future Potential: While the team hasn't achieved a premiership under the current coach, the potential for success remains. Extending the contract provides the coach with the opportunity to continue building on the foundation he has laid and potentially achieve the ultimate goal of winning a premiership.
In conclusion, while the absence of a grand final appearance and premiership victory is notable, the coach's contributions in terms of team development, stability, and performance improvement over the years should not be overlooked. An extension of his contract would recognise the holistic impact he has had on the team and provide the opportunity for future successes.

(Written by ChatGPT)
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Pull the tapeworm outta your ass
 
Enviable Tradition said:
Even ChatGPT is being sarcastic now.

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Yep.
We could all repudiate those 7 items and argue that Ken has not actually achieved a single one of them.
Just a generic waffle about why you could "potentially" continue with a losing outcome based on what might be achievable ☹️
 
VineValerian said:
Yep.
We could all repudiate those 7 items and argue that Ken has not actually achieved a single one of them.
Just a generic waffle about why you could "potentially" continue with a losing outcome based on what might be achievable ☹️
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You know you're no good when you have been there 11 years and people are talking "potential".
 
Some people don’t see the big picture . We bottomed out before Hinkley came , stuffed up with the Shaun Burgoyne picks and got caught up at the same time with Gold Coast and GWS took the early picks . Since then because we were in a perilous position so we’ve had to stay competitive to keep afloat .
we’ve never had the best list but yes have remained competitive, now finally we are genuinely getting a good team together through better list management.
I’ve always been open minded with the coaching just don’t like vitriol directed at the club from armchair experts
 

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davo999 said:
Some people don’t see the big picture . We bottomed out before Hinkley came , stuffed up with the Shaun Burgoyne picks and got caught up at the same time with Gold Coast and GWS took the early picks . Since then because we were in a perilous position so we’ve had to stay competitive to keep afloat .
we’ve never had the best list but yes have remained competitive, now finally we are genuinely getting a good team together through better list management.
I’ve always been open minded with the coaching just don’t like vitriol directed at the club from armchair experts
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This is a bit of a cop out, in 2014 it took probably the best side of the last 20 years to knock us out of the finals.

That same side, after improving the list took 6 years to win another final.

The list has been good enough, the coach failed to get the most out of them.

Had we capitalised on that list and won flags, we’d be in a lot less debt than we are now.
 
Zaine Cordy, Mitch Hannan, Roarke Smith, Anthony Scott, Josh Schache, Laitham Vanderemeer, Stefan Martin and Ryan Gardner smoked us by 12 goals in a home prelim and it was all because of Shaun Burgoyne leaving and the SUNS and Giants taking our picks (we only got Chad Wingard and Ollie Wines from those drafts, what a disaster). I'm glad someone finally cleared that up.
 
TeeKray said:
Zaine Cordy, Mitch Hannan, Roarke Smith, Anthony Scott, Josh Schache, Laitham Vanderemeer, Stefan Martin and Ryan Gardner smoked us by 12 goals in a home prelim and it was all because of Shaun Burgoyne leaving and the SUNS and Giants taking our picks (we only got Chad Wingard and Ollie Wines from those drafts, what a disaster). I'm glad someone finally cleared that up.
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Good to see you’ve finally come round, mate
 
davo999 said:
Some people don’t see the big picture . We bottomed out before Hinkley came , stuffed up with the Shaun Burgoyne picks and got caught up at the same time with Gold Coast and GWS took the early picks . Since then because we were in a perilous position so we’ve had to stay competitive to keep afloat .
we’ve never had the best list but yes have remained competitive, now finally we are genuinely getting a good team together through better list management.
I’ve always been open minded with the coaching just don’t like vitriol directed at the club from armchair experts
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Conversely, I don’t understand why the only path to lionising Hinkley and Koch after eleven seasons is to belittle the club itself as much as possible in order to magnify their alleged achievements.
 
TeeKray said:
Zaine Cordy, Mitch Hannan, Roarke Smith, Anthony Scott, Josh Schache, Laitham Vanderemeer, Stefan Martin and Ryan Gardner smoked us by 12 goals in a home prelim and it was all because of Shaun Burgoyne leaving and the SUNS and Giants taking our picks (we only got Chad Wingard and Ollie Wines from those drafts, what a disaster). I'm glad someone finally cleared that up.
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To add some more context to that loss, 12 months earlier (Without Aliir, who in 2021 was the best CHB in the game) we went down by a kick to a Richmond side that won 3 flags in 4 years.
 
davo999 said:
Some people don’t see the big picture . We bottomed out before Hinkley came , stuffed up with the Shaun Burgoyne picks and got caught up at the same time with Gold Coast and GWS took the early picks . Since then because we were in a perilous position so we’ve had to stay competitive to keep afloat .
we’ve never had the best list but yes have remained competitive, now finally we are genuinely getting a good team together through better list management.
I’ve always been open minded with the coaching just don’t like vitriol directed at the club from armchair experts
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I've mentioned in this thread explaining how Port were robbed of top end talent by GC and GWS compromising the drafts, along with how Melbourne struck gold with Petracca and Brayshaw.
The other thing is Melbourne won a flag after the triple premiership dynasty Richmond team were done, while Port lost two preliminary finals by a kick having to come up against that Richmond dynasty team in 2020 and the triple premiership dynasty Hawthorn team in 2014.
 
Taper said:
I've mentioned in this thread explaining how Port were robbed of top end talent by GC and GWS compromising the drafts.
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And we've explained why you're objectively wrong about this talking point and you've ignored it because it doesn't fit your narrative. We got three All-Australians, two B&F's and a Brownlow out of those drafts.
 
davo999 said:
Some people don’t see the big picture . We bottomed out before Hinkley came , stuffed up with the Shaun Burgoyne picks and got caught up at the same time with Gold Coast and GWS took the early picks . Since then because we were in a perilous position so we’ve had to stay competitive to keep afloat .
we’ve never had the best list but yes have remained competitive, now finally we are genuinely getting a good team together through better list management.
I’ve always been open minded with the coaching just don’t like vitriol directed at the club from armchair experts
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This is some take.
 
Taper said:
with how Melbourne struck gold with Petracca and Brayshaw.
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That was the 2014 Draft.

Nobody held a gun to our heads and told us to completely trade out of the first two rounds for Paddy Ryder (pick #17, pick #37).

Select players taken after those picks and before our first call (#56 — Dougal Howard):

• #18 — Isaac Heeney (academy)
• #24 — Jack Steele
• #29 — Touk Miller
• #30 — Brayden Maynard
• #40 — Alex Neal-Bullen
• #45 — Bailey Dale
• #46 — Caleb Daniel
• #54 — Ed Langdon

You make your choices for subjective need and live and die by them.
 
Schulzenfest said:
And we've explained why you're objectively wrong about this talking point and you've ignored it because it doesn't fit your narrative. We got three All-Australians, two B&F's and a Brownlow out of those drafts.
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Port in 2011 were the worst team since Fitzroy 1996 and only got pick 6.
Hawthorn in 2004 were a far stronger team than Port in 2011 yet they got picks 2 and 5 and traded for pick 7.
Melbourne in 2014 were also stronger than Port in 2011 yet they got picks 2 and 3.

Port did alright from the 2011 and 2012 drafts given the hand they were dealt but let's not pretend they weren't shafted compared to the likes of Hawthorn and Melbourne.
 
Taper said:
Port in 2011 were the worst team since Fitzroy 1996 and only got pick 6.
Hawthorn in 2004 were a far stronger team than Port in 2011 yet they got picks 2 and 5 and traded for pick 7.
Melbourne in 2014 were also stronger than Port in 2011 yet they got picks 2 and 3.

Port did alright from the 2011 and 2012 drafts given the hand they were dealt but let's not pretend they weren't shafted compared to the likes of Hawthorn and Melbourne.
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Picks are just numbers, they're meaningless once the players are drafted. I wouldn't trade Chad Wingard or Ollie Wines at their best for anybody drafted before them.
 
Taper said:
Port in 2011 were the worst team since Fitzroy 1996 and only got pick 6.
Hawthorn in 2004 were a far stronger team than Port in 2011 yet they got picks 2 and 5 and traded for pick 7.
Melbourne in 2014 were also stronger than Port in 2011 yet they got picks 2 and 3.

Port did alright from the 2011 and 2012 drafts given the hand they were dealt but let's not pretend they weren't shafted compared to the likes of Hawthorn and Melbourne.
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This worst team since Fitzroy line is such baloney. Every season there’s a team, sometimes two, that only wins 3 or 4 games. Every goddamn year. Sometimes they even saddle up and do it again the following year like Carlton and Melbourne did in the noughties and North more recently. Something we didn’t do in 2012 despite being woefully unfit and under resourced.
 
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