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AjsGuns

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Love it when he kicks but some of his handballs tonight were extreme next level. AFL has a love affair with Cripps ATM and Bont is yesterday’s news for some but Bonts best >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cripps best.
I just want to say, Cripps and Oliver are my favorite young players to watch outside of ours, I rate them both higher than Kelly, De Goey, Heeney, Merrett etc.

With that said, I dont know how people now rate Bontempelli the lowest of the Cripps, Kelly and Bont debate.
If we compare Bonts seasons in the AFL to Cripps:
2014: Bont Wins
2015: Bont Wins
2016: Bont Wins
2017: Bont Wins
2018: Cripps Wins
I am happy to concede that 2014 and 2015 should not be used as they were still in their first couple of seasons, so it would be disingenous to use that data. You could also say in 2017 that Cripps did his ACL so I am happy to erase that season also. That puts them at 1:1 (Bontempelli 2016) (Cripps 2018) at worst.

People (including dogs supporters) always talk down Bonts 2017 season because it wasn't as good as 2016 and everyone expects young players to follow an upward trajectory. Fact is, Bontempelli won our BnF in 2017, made the AA Squad (could of easily got a spot in the team on the HFF) and finished 7th in the Brownlow medal - that is a very good season for a 21 year old kid.

Bontempelli and Cripps are both superstars, Bontempelli is also a victim of how Bevo plays him, there are times his stuck in our forward line for 10 minutes and the ball doesn't go near him (losing momentum). If he was getting the same midfield minutes as Cripps his disposal count would be a lot higher.
Obviously different players - Cripps is a better contested clearance player and Bontempelli is more versatile and can kick a few goals a game and has better skills. Regardless, I am taking both ahead of Kelly and if forced to choose between Cripps and Bontempelli, I'd go the Bont (would be happy with either).

Will be interesting if Bontempelli has a huge season, his last 4 games of 2018 were massive and he was clearly BOG in round 1 2019.
 

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Hard Ball Get

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I just want to say, Cripps and Oliver are my favorite young players to watch outside of ours, I rate them both higher than Kelly, De Goey, Heeney, Merrett etc.

With that said, I dont know how people now rate Bontempelli the lowest of the Cripps, Kelly and Bont debate.
If we compare Bonts seasons in the AFL to Cripps:
2014: Bont Wins
2015: Bont Wins
2016: Bont Wins
2017: Bont Wins
2018: Cripps Wins
I am happy to concede that 2014 and 2015 should not be used as they were still in their first couple of seasons, so it would be disingenous to use that data. You could also say in 2017 that Cripps did his ACL so I am happy to erase that season also. That puts them at 1:1 (Bontempelli 2016) (Cripps 2018) at worst.

People (including dogs supporters) always talk down Bonts 2017 season because it wasn't as good as 2016 and everyone expects young players to follow an upward trajectory. Fact is, Bontempelli won our BnF in 2017, made the AA Squad (could of easily got a spot in the team on the HFF) and finished 7th in the Brownlow medal - that is a very good season for a 21 year old kid.

Bontempelli and Cripps are both superstars, Bontempelli is also a victim of how Bevo plays him, there are times his stuck in our forward line for 10 minutes and the ball doesn't go near him (losing momentum). If he was getting the same midfield minutes as Cripps his disposal count would be a lot higher.
Obviously different players - Cripps is a better contested clearance player and Bontempelli is more versatile and can kick a few goals a game and has better skills. Regardless, I am taking both ahead of Kelly and if forced to choose between Cripps and Bontempelli, I'd go the Bont (would be happy with either).

Will be interesting if Bontempelli has a huge season, his last 4 games of 2018 were massive and he was clearly BOG in round 1 2019.
I love watching them both. I can easily see how dogs fans would argue Bont and how Blues fans would argue Cripps. Both superstars.
 

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I love watching them both. I can easily see how dogs fans would argue Bont and how Blues fans would argue Cripps. Both superstars.
Let's be real though, the arguments are kinda silly as you said both great players where every team in the comp will kill to have either of them.
 

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Cripps is a super player but if we REPLACED Bont with Cripps we would be a lesser team and that again is not diminishing Cripps. We already have Libber, McCrae, Dunkley, Wallis to do what Cripps does ( albeit not as well ) but I’ve never seen Cripps do anything like Bonts kick to Gowers on Saturday night and that is standard practice for his skill set. Again I know Bont has a superior supporting cast - a premiership team no less - but Bonts best nearly always wins us the game, Cripps best results in a lesser loss margin. Different players of similar standard but Bont is the player we need for this team.


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Can we create our own tradition and have Easton hand over the captaincy at the mid point of the season? Make a big deal about it. Like “The Bont is ready”. With Easton Vice captain again.
 

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COLLINGWOOD v WESTERN BULLDOGS
9 Marcus Bontempelli (WB)
8 Brodie Grundy (COLL)
5 Tom Phillips (COLL)
4 Hayden Crozier (WB)
2 Caleb Daniel (WB)
2 Jordan De Goey (COLL)

LEADERBOARD
34 Marcus Bontempelli
29 Patrick Cripps
26 Tim Kelly
25 Patrick Dangerfield
24 Lachie Neale
23 Lachie Whitfield
19 Sebastian Ross
18 Jeremy Cameron
17 Travis Boak
17 Stephen Coniglio
16 Luke Shuey
15 Shaun Higgins
14 Nat Fyfe
13 Andrew Gaff
13 Jade Gresham
13 Daniel Rich
12 Ben Cunnington
12 Scott Lycett
12 Jack Macrae
12 Rory Sloane
12 Michael Walters






Surging ahead in the AFLCA votes, him and Cripps have to be considered the best players in the game now.
 

Virgin Dog

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COLLINGWOOD v WESTERN BULLDOGS
9 Marcus Bontempelli (WB)
8 Brodie Grundy (COLL)
5 Tom Phillips (COLL)
4 Hayden Crozier (WB)
2 Caleb Daniel (WB)
2 Jordan De Goey (COLL)

LEADERBOARD
34 Marcus Bontempelli
29 Patrick Cripps
26 Tim Kelly
25 Patrick Dangerfield
24 Lachie Neale
23 Lachie Whitfield
19 Sebastian Ross
18 Jeremy Cameron
17 Travis Boak
17 Stephen Coniglio
16 Luke Shuey
15 Shaun Higgins
14 Nat Fyfe
13 Andrew Gaff
13 Jade Gresham
13 Daniel Rich
12 Ben Cunnington
12 Scott Lycett
12 Jack Macrae
12 Rory Sloane
12 Michael Walters






Surging ahead in the AFLCA votes, him and Cripps have to be considered the best players in the game now.
That's some very strange voting in my opinion. Hard to figure out exactly how it went, but best I could come up with was:

COACH 1
5 - Marcus Bontempelli
4 - Tom Phillips
3 - Brodie Grundy
2 - Jordan De Goey
1 - Hayden Crozier

COACH 2
5 - Brodie Grundy
4 - Marcus Bontempelli
3 - Hayden Crozier
2 - Caleb Daniel
1 - Tom Phillips
 

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That's some very strange voting in my opinion. Hard to figure out exactly how it went, but best I could come up with was:

COACH 1
5 - Marcus Bontempelli
4 - Tom Phillips
3 - Brodie Grundy
2 - Jordan De Goey
1 - Hayden Crozier

COACH 2
5 - Brodie Grundy
4 - Marcus Bontempelli
3 - Hayden Crozier
2 - Caleb Daniel
1 - Tom Phillips
Swap Daniel and De Goey and you've probably got Bevo as coach 1 and Buckley as coach 2.

Bont would be close to leading the Brownlow at this stage of the season. Has been brilliant, besides a few skills errors.
 

ScragCity

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Swap Daniel and De Goey and you've probably got Bevo as coach 1 and Buckley as coach 2.

Bont would be close to leading the Brownlow at this stage of the season. Has been brilliant, besides a few skills errors.
Jeez I would love Bont to win the Brownlow to put an end to the Bont vs Cripps vs Kelly vs Oliver debate
 

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My guess:

BEV
5 - Marcus Bontempelli
4 - Hayden Crozier
3 - Brodie Grundy
2 - Tom Philips
1 - Caleb Daniel

BUCKS
5 - Brodie Grundy
4 - Marcus Bontempelli
3 - Tom Philips
2 - Jordan De Goey
1 - Caleb Daniel
 
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