Which drafts have been gutted? It’s a pretty simple question …
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Good in depth analysis. I don't see Richmond in any way similar to Hawks at this juncture.The Richmond list currently has:
- 10 Premiership players under 30yo(down to as young as 23yo)
- 2 further GWS Grand Final players 25, 26yo
- 10 first round picks and 10 second round picks plus Baker 25, Graham 25, Short 27.
- A number of promising players who do not fit any of the above categories in M Rioli Jnr, Ryan, Ralphsmith, Mansell, Young.
Below is a link to Hawk's list for 2017 after they got rid of S Mitchell & Lewis. Like Richmond's current list there was still plenty of talent there. But in their next 3 seasons they won 10.5, 15 and 11 home and away games. So they did not actually fall off a cliff. Their list was actually very decent at that time, and they had a healthy spread of highish draft picks across their list. But they wanted a flag or nothing. So Birchall, the older Hodge, Smith, Ceglar, Shiels, Gunston, Duryea, Tom Mitchell, O'Meara, Tim O'Brien, Howe, Burton, Pittonet have been traded or given away all to end up playing with other clubs. Frawley increasingly struggled with injury. Rioli was lost to the game in his prime. Vickery, Schoenmakers, Langford, O'Rourke, Hartung, Lovell all barely fired another shot or were just no good. 5 of that 6 were originally top 25 draft picks.
They seemed to switch to a policy of taking salary dumps like Patton and Scully. They traded for Impey, who has had a lot of injuries, Wingard, Frost, Phillips, Max Lynch, Cooper Stephens and got Amon as a Free Agent after 2017.
Such that 6 off seasons later all they have remaining of value on the list from the 2017 list is: Breust, Sicily, Hardwick, Lewis, Morrison, Nash. 6 players.
They had started taking wrong turns from 2017 by jettisoning Sam Mitchell and Lewis. They had also traded/free agented quite a lot of players during their Premiership years, and in 2017 their list contained 12 players that had played at other clubs. Richmond's current list has just 6 of those.
Why did Hawthorn plummet from 2020 onwards? Ultimately, they chose to, in order to get draft picks for a rebuild. Initially, they had a series of things go wrong, poor trades, premature retirements, injuries. There is absolutely nothing to say any of this will be true for Richmond, or any other club. It requires a lot to go wrong.
So far Richmond, since their first flag, have brought in just 3 players from other clubs in trades or as free agents. Lynch, Taranto, Hopper, all high quality players, all to fill obvious needs. Richmond have taken no salary dumps. Only let 2 other players in the door who had played for other clubs, Parker and Mav Weller. The list has been kept stable. Older players have not been forced out. And also unlike Hawthorn, Richmond have shown no sign at all so far of chopping and changing from one strategy to another then another. So it beats me why people think Richmond are following the Hawks' path. The whole thing looks completely different bar the 3 flags in short order then needing to obviously transition the best 22.
Hawthorn Playing List for 2017 - Draftguru
www.draftguru.com.au
In 2017, Hawthorn had the following players younger than 30yo(14 Premiership players under 30):
29 yo Birchall rd pick 14
28 Frawley pick 12 Isaac Smith pick 19 Stratton
27 McEvoy pick 9 Rioli pick 12 Whitecross pick 29
26 Vickery pick 8 Schoenmakers pick 16 Breust, Ceglar
25 Shiels pick 34 Gunston pick 29 Duryea
24 Langford
23 Tom Mitchell pick 21 O'Meara pre-draft pick equivalent to a top 5 pick Tim O'Brien 28 Jono O'Rourke pick 2
22 Hartung pick 24 Sicily
21 Howe pick 31
20 Burton pick 19 Hardwick pick 44 Pittonet
19 Lovell pick 22
18 Mitch Lewis, Harry Morrison, Nash
These guys get professional advice.
The one I always find amusing is "he used to barrack for us as a kid!"
Lynch though is elite and prob has a good few years left. You can get by with one dominant forward imo
My other favourite is "he's best mates with Joe Blogs from the under 18s days".
And personal opportunity
Are you still building?? I'd give it one more year and if the Blues aren't playing finals footy, I think only Curnow will be safe.
I'd suggest Hawkins is a rarity.
Carlton's list us somewhere between the 9th and 12th best, which is about where they will finish again this year.
Mate, I literally answered your question straight away, last years and this years. It’s a pretty simple answer. The first round pick is over 50% of a drafts worth and you can use whatever mental gymnastics you want but unless my current inebriated state means I can’t read wikipedia your first pick last year was pick 49.
