Banter Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood?

[PieLebo87]

Mainly here so we can enjoy the LOLs afterwards at the end of 2023, but also an interesting discussion point.

I’m in genuine two minds and can’t call it, but who do you see finishing higher in 2023?

Who is positioned better from a list/team perspective?

Let the games begin…

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[carlton_99]

OK. Carlton's win in Round 0 is the best performance we've seen by any AFL team this year (despite Brisbane being winless after three games).

Is that better?

Stop putting words in my mouth - was replying to a comment saying our win was "lucky". Whether it's a good win or not is purely subjective and has nothing to do with my comment

 

[Doc1763]

That's a very long time...

yep, just imagine.....

 

[doppleganger]

• Down 6 of our best 22 (then lose Docherty at HT)
• Down by 46 points
• At the Gabba where Lions had been undefeated for over a year

Its 2024, Lions aint won at the GABBA.

Keep on topic please

If you want to talk 2023, fine by me though.

 

[adammania9]

Mate he was dropping uncontested marks - he was a straight liability last night. Could have been defended by Stevie Wonder and he would have had no impact. Contrastingly, Frampton did a great job on Daniher. That I will give credit for.

To suggest any of Brisbane’s reserves forwards would have made up the 4 goal difference in the end is interesting

 

[Crankyhawk]

Hmm if it's either us or Collingwood that win the flag this year, then this thread is going to be carnage!

The thread will probably end up in the bay within the week.

Last year it got put in bay when it would’ve got interesting but it really seemed like actual bay posters didn’t pay much attention. It’s a more active thread on MB

 

[Fadge]

We finished 9th in 2022 - did you expect our fixture to be the same as yours who lost in a Prelim...?

Based on where teams finished at the end of the home and away season last year, Collingwood's fixture was determined to be the most difficult of any club in the competition (despite not having to play the top team at any stage throughout the season, because that was us)!

Naturally, that's before going into the next level of analysis, but safe to say we didn't have any clubs playing dead rubbers against us, nor did we have opposition clubs resting players for our game with a more important contest a week later in mind...

 

[carlton_99]

To suggest any of Brisbane’s reserves forwards would have made up the 4 goal difference in the end is interesting

When did I say they would have won the game if he didn't play? Another poster putting words in my mouth.

 

[adammania9]

6 of the best 22 didn’t play?

Walsh
Weitering
Motlop
???
???
???

 

[adammania9]

When did I say they would have won the game if he didn't play? Another poster putting words in my mouth.

Was another poster, apologies. You seem to be a stronger thinker.

 

[carlton_99]

6 of the best 22 didn’t play?

Walsh
Weitering
Motlop
???
???
???

Walsh, Weitering, Motlop, Martin, Marchbank and Hollands. Then lost Docherty at HT. We also had Silvagni out who I had in my 22 pre-season but won't count him as he is out for the year.

 

[Fadge]

6 of the best 22 didn’t play?

Walsh
Weitering
Motlop
???
???
???

You're forgetting Carlton have 34 players in their best 22.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

• Down 6 of our best 22 (then lose Docherty at HT)
• Down by 46 points
• At the Gabba where Lions had been undefeated for over a year

All luck...

Who else went down around HT?

Lions had put all their eggs in the Coleman basket, that's why they're no good atm

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[Doc1763]

You're forgetting Carlton have 34 players in their best 22.

who were all going to be delisted when they were 4-9 last year

 

[carlton_99]

Who else went down around HT?

Lions had put all their eggs in the Coleman basket, that's why they're no good atm

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That was also a big loss for them. Both teams lost important players but when you consider the outs we already had and the leadership/versatility Doc brings it was still significant for us

 

[carlton_99]

who were all going to be delisted when they were 4-9 last year

Another one who conflates the opinions of a few and the opinion of the entire supporter base

 

[doppleganger]

Walsh, Weitering, Motlop, Martin, Marchbank and Hollands. Then lost Docherty at HT. We also had Silvagni out who I had in my 22 pre-season but won't count him as he is out for the year.

Two big outs and then a couple of perenially injured blokes and a couple of kids.

How many best 22 are missing this week against North? Is it an excuse if North jump the Baggers?

 

[carlton_99]

Two big outs and then a couple of perenially injured blokes and a couple of kids.

How many best 22 are missing this week against North? Is it an excuse if North jump the Baggers?

The fact that Weitering, Marchbank and Hollands have all come back for this game the second they were available highlights that they are indeed best 22 in the eyes of the coaching group.

Motlop our best small forward and Martin our best mid-sized forward are also locks when fit. Walsh is also an obvious in when he gets back.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Most sound Carlton supporter logic.

“If Brisbane DIDN’T have their 40 goal forward playing, they somehow would won”

Hipwood was by far BOG for the Pies last night. Even Lions supporters would agree

 

[doppleganger]

The fact that Weitering, Marchbank and Hollands have all come back for this game the second they were available highlights that they are indeed best 22 in the eyes of the coaching group.

Motlop our best small forward and Martin our best mid-sized forward are also locks when fit. Walsh is also an obvious in when he gets back.

So missing 3 best 22 today?

 

[Doc1763]

Hipwood was by far BOG for the Pies last night. Even Lions supporters would agree

I didn't think he could paly any worse than he did on Grand Final day, but he exceeded expectations.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I didn't think he could paly any worse than he did on Grand Final day, but he exceeded expectations.

Was absolutely insipid. Could barely believe what I was watching

 

[carlton_99]

So missing 3 best 22 today?

Docherty (for sure) and JSOS (for some) as well but they are out for the season so they won't be back in 24'

 

[Aphrodite]

Carlton under manned v lions so in context an excellent win

46 points down at one stage.

Funny all silent from the Collingwood brethren.

 

[adammania9]

If Elijah Hollands was missing from Carlton’s best 22, then Dane Swan

Dane Swan

Age

40

Ht

185cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.9

5star

K

16.4

5star

HB

10.4

5star

M

5.9

5star

T

3.1

5star

CL

5.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

12.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

is missing from ours

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

If Elijah Hollands was missing from Carlton’s best 22, then Dane Swan is missing from ours

Don't go talking s**t about Elijah! I've got a KFC bucket on the line and I don't want anyone jinxing him