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Traded Jack Higgins [Traded to St Kilda with #21 and a Future 4th Round Pick for #17 and a Future 2nd Round Pick]
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I'd be fine with this. Our first round pick isn't that high though. Will end up low 20's.
I also don't care about using the first round this year as I don't think we should chase Ben King.
Happy to just keep him.
Get him as fit as possible over summer and see how he goes. He's a better kick than Castagna and more physically involved than Rioli.
Just needs to get with the team program (can be a bit selfish at times) and I can see plenty of upside despite not being his biggest fan this year.
Get him as fit as possible over summer and see how he goes. He's a better kick than Castagna and more physically involved than Rioli.
Just needs to get with the team program (can be a bit selfish at times) and I can see plenty of upside despite not being his biggest fan this year.
Yeah thats fine by us as well , Now tell your club he is contracted and not to approach contracted players with 4 year deals if they dont have the assets to get a trade done.
Typical saints want champagne on a beer budget
Ben King is contracted until 2022 on pretty big dollars and will cost a crap load to get out of there, The way Stkilda are going in 2 years time the cap space is looking like getting maxed out with GC actually coming after Max with $$$ and Saints needing to pay to keep him.
thats not even mentioning the other players will all be wanting bigger cash watching Hanner, Hill , Crouch , Jones and now higgins who would be on around $500k to get him out of Richmond.
Ben King if he was to leave GC would be offered $700k+
No Chance St Kilda are going to fit 2 x Kings and the support crew they have on their list. Its dream and a foward line with 2 kings wont work imo
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haha, can't fit 2 good players in the same fwd line said no one ever
200cm+ athletic marking forwards
if you guys haven't attended a training, get down there and watch Max, guys a freak, and what I've seen of Ben, he's no different.
200cm+ athletic marking forwards
if you guys haven't attended a training, get down there and watch Max, guys a freak, and what I've seen of Ben, he's no different.
Yeah I don’t understand the fascination with this.
Other players/positions we need to fill before targeting Ben King.
Reminds me of when Saints fans wanted to get Lachie Weller because he was Mav’s brother.....
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Max is a beast, but do we really need more great forwards when we struggle to get the ball to them?
Max King, Membrey, Butler, Gresham, Ryder/Marshall etc is a solid forward line for the future. Crouch + Higgins in the midfield is what we need right now, and we have a chance of making it happen. Bird in the hand, and all that.
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The saints will not pursue Ben King. If he was to play at St. Kilda he would most likely have to play on a wing or as a defensive post.
The fact of the matter is that the Saints are looking to bolster the midfield and ensure that quality youth keep entering the system. Clubs chasing quick fixes almost always end up with huge age gaps on their list, which causes long term issues equating to bottoming out.
All the talk of a quick rebuild is a bit pie in the sky, whilst a club can be lucky in the draft, history suggests that a slow methodical list build is the only way to sustained winning football.
The fact of the matter is that the Saints are looking to bolster the midfield and ensure that quality youth keep entering the system. Clubs chasing quick fixes almost always end up with huge age gaps on their list, which causes long term issues equating to bottoming out.
All the talk of a quick rebuild is a bit pie in the sky, whilst a club can be lucky in the draft, history suggests that a slow methodical list build is the only way to sustained winning football.
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Agreed. We're building nicely over this trade period and last trade period. The fact we were in the hunt for Higgins and Treloar with Crouch already in is evidence that we're looking to fill the right gaps.
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I think you're used to having first round picks in the top 10 or so.
Jack is about as big a fish as you're likely to get with a pick around 20. The reason the top clubs focus on FA is they usually can't afford the trade for big fish otherwise.
Think he is a good player but not sure what being a freak has to do with this , Heard alot about freaks in the past doesn't always translate
But the point was that the 2 brothers play very similar games as fowards and thats not always the best foward set up.
Also 2 kings mean $2 mil of cap space in 2-4 years if they are the 'Freaks' that you mentioned
What people also need to remember with these things are that ben is signed for another 2 years and with that young group they have at GC now these boys will all be growing together and when they start winning their love for one another as well as the club grow also. and if they are getting looked after financially which Ben King will be i wouldnt be holding out hope to get him until he gets to free agency Lynch , Cameron , Daniher etc
Thats the best time for them to make their move and usually get overs from clubs with cap space. St Kilda had a good year and are looking like they will be up the top of the ladder for a while so what that means is . Salary Cap pressure will come.
Steele,Billings,Gresham.Crouch,King,Hill,Jones,Hanner are all on big deals then you will have the next group of Coffield , Clarke etc looking for major increases soon . Can see another $800k-$900k being available in 2 years time.
TPP hits all clubs when you start getting to finals regularly
Thats the best time for them to make their move and usually get overs from clubs with cap space. St Kilda had a good year and are looking like they will be up the top of the ladder for a while so what that means is . Salary Cap pressure will come.
Steele,Billings,Gresham.Crouch,King,Hill,Jones,Hanner are all on big deals then you will have the next group of Coffield , Clarke etc looking for major increases soon . Can see another $800k-$900k being available in 2 years time.
TPP hits all clubs when you start getting to finals regularly
A great footballer?
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We can let you have this bloke instead of Higgins if you like:
Not quite as tall as his brothers but you’ll get some change from 700K/year.
Late first should get it done.
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The trade will be either a future 2nd or 1st round pick swap and a future 2nd, I'd say the latter is very fair.
All of this "We are happy to just keep him" talk is ridiculous, both of these clubs simply get trades done when people are wanting in/out.
All of this "We are happy to just keep him" talk is ridiculous, both of these clubs simply get trades done when people are wanting in/out.
Pretty hard to attend training when locked down in melbourne , We at Richmond cant get into training as there are more people there than at some AFL games
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We'll see.
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Yeah - great position of strength - "owning the contract" of a player who doesn't want to play for you.
