List Mgmt. 2023 List Management thread

[Snuffaluphagus]

Mod notice after Mr Bob did a lot of annoying work in moving days of posts out of here. As we are heading into offseason, this thread is for 2023 list management only. Getting upset on previous trades can be taken to the vent thread. Lets keep this thread on track in the part of the year it's actually relevant

 

[Taylor]

Last I heard both Cox and Darcy were looking like Christmas special signings.

Still on track.

 

[Eski3]

Great to re-sign Brennan although I am not a fan of long contracts.

3 year contracts are better - more flexibility.

Tbh I do think the Adelaide interest was real, and with what they were potentially offering I don't think a 3 year extension would have got it done

 

[Mags98]

Great to re-sign Brennan although I am not a fan of long contracts.

3 year contracts are better - more flexibility.

eh theres flexibility to be had with long term contracts as well though, back/front end contracts and you understand exactly where your cap is at at those points with the important players locked in

 

[Taylor]

The likelihood of Brennan Cox

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Brennan Cox

Age

25

Ht

195cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

182.8

3star

D

12.3

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.0

2star

MG

182.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

's contract negotiations going similar to Angus Brayshaw

10

Angus Brayshaw

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

4.3

5star

MG

233.5

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

7.8

4star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.2

4star

MG

233.5

4star

D

11.4

3star

K

8.2

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

5.6

5star

last season is fairly high I would think. I don't think Cox was all that likely to leave but Adelaide would have kept Freo honest on the term of the deal.

He's contracted for the rest of his career now, as he would have been at Adelaide. Done.

If we need a marking tall to play forward and any of Hamling, Davies, Draper are capable of playing down back - that problem is now solved for the rest of the decade.

 

[Purple Suit]

Great to re-sign Brennan although I am not a fan of long contracts.

3 year contracts are better - more flexibility.

Nah, the model is to sign up ever A grader for 6+ years so when we start dominating it can be for an extended period. The pain of 1 not working out will be covered by the 8 others being on less money for longer.

If you want flexibility, just have a Collingwood style fire sale.

If your A grader drops off, just wait longer till they turn it around. Look at Cogs for instance.

 

[ubiquitous226]

‘Rock bottom’: Hogan’s frank Freo admission ahead of final

Jesse Hogan reveals the moment in his short-lived Fremantle career where he hit ‘rock bottom’ as the ex-Docker prepares to write another chapter in his redemption story at Greater Western Sydney.

thewest.com.au

https://archive.md/oFgGq

A lot of nothing in there, but Hogan doesn't point the finger at anyone other than himself which is a credit to him.

 

[Taylor]

Take a look at how much the salary cap has moved:

2014: $9,921,000
2015: $10,071,000
2016: $10,360,000
2017: $12,450,000 (New CBA)
to
2022: $13,540,000
2023: $14,700,000 (+50% ish on 2014)
to
2027: Approx $18,100,000

 

[theGav56]

Geez they are a delusional bunch, I might need to move over there.

It's a genuine fishbowl, and they still carry residual disappointment/entightlement regarding Paclich.

 

[DragoDelph]

Also…

 

[ilikepotatoes]

Take a look at how much the salary cap has moved:

2014: $9,921,000
2015: $10,071,000
2016: $10,360,000
2017: $12,450,000 (New CBA)
to
2022: $13,540,000
2023: $14,700,000 (+50% ish on 2014)
to
2027: Approx $18,100,000

Need to be careful to not end up like a few NBA teams who splashed big on free agents when the salary cap jumped and have dead money on the books.

 

[DragoDelph]

And just quietly, was the whole retro marketing theme, a dig at Cox?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Need to be careful to not end up like a few NBA teams who splashed big on free agents when the salary cap jumped and have dead money on the books.

Alternatively, we add the comparative of Kevin Durant to the team and become an unstoppable juggernaught

 

[Kram]

‘Rock bottom’: Hogan’s frank Freo admission ahead of final

Jesse Hogan reveals the moment in his short-lived Fremantle career where he hit ‘rock bottom’ as the ex-Docker prepares to write another chapter in his redemption story at Greater Western Sydney.

thewest.com.au

https://archive.md/oFgGq

A lot of nothing in there, but Hogan doesn't point the finger at anyone other than himself which is a credit to him.

Some people take a long time to grow up looks like he finally has.

 

[ilikepotatoes]

Alternatively, we add the comparative of Kevin Durant to the team and become an unstoppable juggernaught

Who would be the AFL equivalent of Durant?

 

[Carnthedockers]

‘Rock bottom’: Hogan’s frank Freo admission ahead of final

Jesse Hogan reveals the moment in his short-lived Fremantle career where he hit ‘rock bottom’ as the ex-Docker prepares to write another chapter in his redemption story at Greater Western Sydney.

thewest.com.au

https://archive.md/oFgGq

A lot of nothing in there, but Hogan doesn't point the finger at anyone other than himself which is a credit to him.

Lines up with everything I witnessed. His house is in the next street, which I believe he still owns. Was always alone and walking the streets.

 

[MadMundy]

Good to see that Hogan has grown up and owned up to the mistakes he made, everybody deserves a chance at redemption.

 

[DragoDelph]

I'd honestly consider using some of the extra cash to have a crack at Billings. If taking him and his $$ off the saints, helps us get pick 12 for Henry...?

He either finds form on half forward as a burst mid, or helps the development at Peel for a few years and is decent depth. At worst becomes a rehab buddy for Fyfey.

I think there's something there, and has been mismanaged / played out of position. But it's more about buying that pick.

Although, as a side note, McClure thought that Henry was worth AT LEAST pick 10.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Who would be the AFL equivalent of Durant?

Da Bont is a top 5 "Slim Reaper" type player

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Although, as a side note, McClure thought that Henry was worth AT LEAST pick 10.

I would love a link to that if you had one, that's hilarious

 

[DragoDelph]

I would love a link to that if you had one, that's hilarious

Was in the latest Tradies ep.

Somewhere in the first half an hour where they go through the list of players and what they think each is worth on the open market/in this draft.

https://feeds.megaphone.fm/CRDOR1818502115

 

[freo_leo29]

I would love a link to that if you had one, that's hilarious

Tradies podcast

Somewhere they run through the players

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Tradies podcast

Somewhere they run through the players

Was in the latest Tradies ep.

Somewhere in the first half an hour where they go through the list of players and what they think each is worth on the open market/in this draft.

https://feeds.megaphone.fm/CRDOR1818502115

I swear they do this to get everyone worked up. Like, how can anyone so connected to the AFL think he's worth at least pick 10.

 

[Sully90]

Although, as a side note, McClure thought that Henry was worth AT LEAST pick 10.

Always thought McClure was a genius

 

[gungho]

So the saints have pick 31 and 12.
We will want 12 for Henry. They will want to give us 31.
If I was a betting man I'd say this is going to be another Logue/Acres debacle where we blink first, get the pick 31, and exchange some meaningless late round swaps.
For all the feathers in his cap, I haven't seen that much evidence of Belly playing hard ball at the trade table. (Remembering Lachie Weller was before his time).

 

[Sully90]

So the saints have pick 31 and 12.
We will want 12 for Henry. They will want to give us 31.
If I was a betting man I'd say this is going to be another Logue/Acres debacle where we blink first, get the pick 31, and exchange some meaningless late round swaps.
For all the feathers in his cap, I haven't seen that much evidence of Belly playing hard ball at the trade table. (Remembering Lachie Weller was before his time).

Brad Hill and Cera was definately a win for him. Saints and Carlton's opening offers in both casees were ridicuous unders from memory.