List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part I

George · Aug 22, 2021

Delisted;
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Traded;
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Retired;
Jake Carlisle
Shaun McKernan

Current Players Out of Contract;
3. Zak Jones - Link
6. Sebastian Ross (RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan (RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie - Link
15. Jack Billings (RFA) - Link
18. Patrick Ryder - Link
24. James Frawley - Link
25. Dean Kent - Link
38. Oscar Clavarino - Link
39. Darragh Joyce - Link
41. Paul Hunter - Link
42. Max Heath - Link
45. Sam Alabakis - Link

To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

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stfan · Jul 25, 2021

PoppedCorn said:
We 100% sure gears wont get a gig?

Given Webster's good form, and Paton already due to come back in 2022, what would be the point of having Gears go around again in 2022?

tomjoad · Jul 25, 2021

botts said:
Yeah. If his back is cooked of course. But if it’s right then it’s worth another year

I'd agree...too good a player (when right to play) to not have on the list, and definitely beneficial to us when in form. That said other factors like him not being given games when fit to play also have to be factored in. I think since Ratts has taken the helm Snake has been on the outer...much to the bemusement of many of us on this forum. It seems the coaches want a lighter, smaller & more mobile set up. Personally think we need another big body in there that can keep their feet (looking at you Doogs...that dude trips over A LOT) and is able to bend down to pick up a ball and swivel (which is now the big issue regarding Carlisle)

stfan · Jul 25, 2021

Premium said:
Net year teams are alotted 44 players which include rookies etc and we currently have 44
A few teams have a couple extra , the Suns have a extra 6 players which was a agreement with the AFL

AFL Club Lists for 2021

Club Senior List Rookies Average Age Age Rank Average Games Games Rank Average Goals Goals Rank Average Votes Votes Rank
Adelaide 38 players 8 (+0 cat B) 23.6 years 18th 54.0 games 16th 29.0 goals 14th 8.2 votes 14th
Brisbane 38 players 5 (+2 cat B) 23.9 years 14th 60.7 games 12th 36.4 goals 10th 8.6 votes 12th
Carlton 36 players 8 (+1 cat B) 24.3 years 11th 65.7 games 8th 40.8 goals 6th 8.0 votes 15th
Collingwood 36 players 6 (+2 cat B) 24.2 years 12th 62.6 games 11th 39.1 goals 8th 11.9 votes 6th
Essendon 36 players 8 (+2 cat B) 23.8 years 15th 53.7 games 17th 31.0 goals 13th 7.7 votes 16th
Fremantle 36 players 6 (+1 cat B) 24.0 years 13th 58.2 games 13th 28.0 goals 15th 10.0 votes 8th
Geelong 38 players 4 (+2 cat B) 25.4 years 1st 88.0 games 1st 73.5 goals 1st 18.9 votes 1st
Gold Coast 38 players 10 (+2 cat B) 23.7 years 16th 51.9 games 18th 20.2 goals 18th 3.3 votes 18th
Greater Western Sydney 37 players 7 (+1 cat B) 24.5 years 7th 56.2 games 15th 27.0 goals 16th 8.5 votes 13th
Hawthorn 36 players 9 (+1 cat B) 24.4 years 9th 67.2 games 6th 48.9 goals 5th 9.6 votes 9th
Melbourne 36 players 8 (+1 cat B) 24.6 years 6th 65.0 games 9th 34.5 goals 11th 9.5 votes 10th
North Melbourne 36 players 7 (+1 cat B) 23.7 years 17th 56.8 games 14th 27.0 goals 17th 6.4 votes 17th
Port Adelaide 36 players 6 (+1 cat B) 24.4 years 8th 69.6 games 5th 40.5 goals 7th 12.4 votes 4th
Richmond 35 players 8 (+1 cat B) 24.8 years 4th 73.7 games 4th 53.5 goals 3rd 13.5 votes 2nd
St Kilda 36 players 7 (+1 cat B) 25.2 years 2nd 74.7 games 3rd 36.8 goals 9th 8.8 votes 11th
Sydney 37 players 6 (+1 cat B) 24.3 years 10th 64.5 games 10th 52.8 goals 4th 12.4 votes 5th
West Coast 37 players 7 (+0 cat B) 24.9 years 3rd 76.9 games 2nd 53.6 goals 2nd 12.6 votes 3rd
Western Bulldogs 35 players 7 (+1 cat B) 24.7 years 5th 66.0 games 7th 31.9 goals 12th 10.8 votes 7th

If we only keep Ryder, and say Hannas (due to his contract), from the group below our average age would drop significantly.

PoppedCorn · Jul 25, 2021

Diehard Saint said:
Isn’t he still contracted for next year?

Yes but he could take an early pay out i would presume (?)
But im tipping that wont happen

PandaG · Jul 25, 2021

The_Snake26 said:
Any suggestions? How many AFL quality rucks would want to come in and play the fill in games so Paddy can have a rest. We could pick up a state league ruckman, but we already have one

I would really consider Rhys Stanley
Sounds crazy but might be perfect for 2022

L_W_P · Jul 25, 2021

They will keep Hanners. I rekon Gears gets 1 more year as well.

Dunstan will (rightly) test the market. So will Lonie.

We need to load up on mids.

Fiorini breaking out right now which sucks. Have wanted him and though he would be basically free this year!

I don't mind a back six of Paton, Howard, Webster, Coffield, Wilkie & Highmore. Sinc & Hill dropping back off the wing ala Caleb Daniel for the run and kicking skills. It's a really solid unit, even more so if our mids are on top.

If we feel like we need another forward then Josh Battle is right there. ****ed if I know why we don't just stick him in a give him a month to have a crack at it.

PandaG · Jul 25, 2021

PoppedCorn said:
We 100% sure gears wont get a gig?

Others 100% gone

Hanners ive got a feeling will stay on
Not my preferred choice tho

Gears is 100% playing on next year

KingsRansom · Jul 25, 2021

L_W_P said:
They will keep Hanners. I rekon Gears gets 1 more year as well.

Dunstan will (rightly) test the market. So will Lonie.

We need to load up on mids.

Fiorini breaking out right now which sucks. Have wanted him and though he would be basically free this year!

I don't mind a back six of Paton, Howard, Webster, Coffield, Wilkie & Highmore. Sinc & Hill dropping back off the wing ala Caleb Daniel for the run and kicking skills. It's a really solid unit, even more so if our mids are on top.

If we feel like we need another forward then Josh Battle is right there. f’ed if I know why we don't just stick him in a give him a month to have a crack at it.

My guess would be the stress fractures in his foot

KingsRansom · Jul 25, 2021

PandaG said:
Gears is 100% playing on next year

Don't have am issue with this at all

PandaG · Jul 25, 2021

Ephemeral Hope said:
character is an issue but would be the ultimate cheap depth. Same vein as Frawley, you hope to not use him but if Dougs ever goes down he'd be a fitting replacement. Plenty of skill and experience

surly we look to port who have an abundance of talls
Lienert 26, out of contract
195cm

not getting a game
Laid and Doogs connections get him to us..?

BrutThough · Jul 25, 2021

KingsRansom said:
Don't have am issue with this at all

The only issue I would have is if he remains captain with it. Steele in the main man now and thriving with it.

Joffaboy · Jul 25, 2021

So I am coming around to maybe letting Billings go for a Band 2.

We save 600k or whatever he is on and maybe can entice a Taranto type.

We are going to have plenty of cap.

Mowman · Jul 25, 2021

Joffaboy said:
So I am coming around to maybe letting Billings go for a Band 2.

We save 600k or whatever he is on and maybe can entice a Taranto type.

We are going to have plenty of cap.

Welcome aboard

Diehard Saint · Jul 25, 2021

Joffaboy said:
So I am coming around to maybe letting Billings go for a Band 2.

We save 600k or whatever he is on and maybe can entice a Taranto type.

We are going to have plenty of cap.

You’ve given up on Heeney then?

StCicatriz · Jul 25, 2021

Joffaboy said:
So I am coming around to maybe letting Billings go for a Band 2.

We save 600k or whatever he is on and maybe can entice a Taranto type.

We are going to have plenty of cap.

Im on board too. Would rather just get off this roller coaster of unfulfilled potential.

Mowman · Jul 25, 2021

Diehard Saint said:
You’ve given up on Heeney then?

Heeney is a star
How good was he today ?

ScrappyDo · Jul 25, 2021

Joffaboy said:
So I am coming around to maybe letting Billings go for a Band 2.

We save 600k or whatever he is on and maybe can entice a Taranto type.

We are going to have plenty of cap.

Mowman said:
Welcome aboard

StCicatriz said:
Im on board too. Would rather just get off this roller coaster of unfulfilled potential.

Welcome gents. Make yourselves comfortable, the waiter will be bye to take your drinks order shortly.
Smoke'm if you've got'm.

stavro#4 · Jul 25, 2021

ScrappyDo said:
Welcome gents. Make yourselves comfortable, the waiter will be bye to take your drinks order shortly.
Smoke'm if you've got'm.

I see my little club is expanding.

StCicatriz · Jul 25, 2021

stavro#4 said:
I see my little club is expanding.

If you charged admission we could have cleared our debt hahahahaha

I remember getting flamed last off season because...

"Billings makes us better"

StCicatriz · Jul 26, 2021

Hahahaha turns out GC are the club into Lobb...

Now freo are very light on for tall fwds. I wonder how badly they'd pay for one?

AirWinmar · Jul 26, 2021

KingsRansom said:
Don't have am issue with this at all

Respect to Gears, but would be crazy to have him on the list next year considering reduced list sizes. Need as many that can play as possible and unfortunately his body is letting him down.

pebblesofsand · Jul 26, 2021

Miha said:
Can somebody with an elite mind tell me how we line up with Bing and Ming?

Pretty straight forward. Paul Hunter loses the tap in the centre and opposition rush it forward.

Bing marks it at CHB, handballs to Leo Connolly who hits Ming lace out after he led out from FF.

Ming, who we now know kicks better from 50 metres, kicks the goal.

Rinse and repeat!!!

Joffaboy · Jul 26, 2021

StCicatriz said:
If you charged admission we could have cleared our debt hahahahaha

I remember getting flamed last off season because...

"Billings makes us better"

Never been against letting Billings go, but expected he would get us band 1.

His form is not up to it. I would not be unhappy if he stayed, he gets slammed because he is not flashy and his output is underrated however he has stagnated at the Saints.
For his career it would be better to make a break and refresh at a new environment.

I dont think we should offer more than we have. If he 600k well we get a Crouch like dp for him.
Que Sera Sera.

Winmar2Lockett · Jul 26, 2021

StCicatriz said:
If you charged admission we could have cleared our debt hahahahaha

I remember getting flamed last off season because...

"Billings makes us better"

At his best he undoubtedly does.

Unfortunately its now been too long since he has done that & it occurs inconsistently at best.

I’m on board too gents, save me a seat.

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stavro#4 · Jul 26, 2021

Winmar2Lockett said:
At his best he undoubtedly does.

Unfortunately its now been too long since he has done that & it occurs inconsistently at best.

I’m on board too gents, save me a seat.

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