Traded Adam Treloar [traded with #26, #33 and #42 to Bulldogs for #14 and 2021 R2]

[Footy Smarts]

View attachment 1026596

NO! You mean the final outcome is what anyone with the slightest bit of logic could see from a mile away?

 

[markm106]

Love to see a bid for McInnes come before 14.

Pies would be nuts not to try and trade up a few spots.

 

[Tippett2Goal]

Pies would be nuts not to try and trade up a few spots.

Pies will want to move out of next years first round, given Daicos is already touted as a top 5 pick.

 

[iameviljez]

Well if the idea is to significantly reduce salary, what other options are there, but to trade for draft picks?

To be honest about it.

Everyone accepts that players had to be sold at this point, but telling Treloar and Stephenson that senior players wanted them out, they were hard to coach and the hadn’t ingratiated themselves with teammates - and informing them via management that they were up for trade - is really poor. Pretending that Collingwood chose to sell them to get into the draft is even worse.

 

[Northernsoul74]

To be honest about it.

Everyone accepts that players had to be sold at this point, but telling Treloar and Stephenson that senior players wanted them out, they were hard to coach and the hadn’t ingratiated themselves with teammates - and informing them via management that they were up for trade - is really poor. Pretending that Collingwood chose to sell them to get into the draft is even worse.

The Treloar stuff really doesn’t portray the leadership group in a very good light either if true.
They also still have the issue of Lumumba suing them as well.

 

[markm106]

Pies will want to move out of next years first round, given Daicos is already touted as a top 5 pick.

They have time to work out next years pick. But yeah might try move it on this year. But they’ll want to get in before their academy kid this year.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Has to be bored schoolkids who run this page lpl

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I've said this elsewhere, but my personal opinion is that they had DeGoey earmarked as the 'sacrifice' that would be let go to keep all (or most) of the others. North were previously prepared to pay squillions for him, so they had at least one suitor prepared to take all his salary off the books.

Then JDG's sexual assault allegations came up and blew those plans out of the water, leaving them scrambling to find other player(s) to let go instead.

I think the same.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Love to see a bid for McInnes come before 14.

They would live trade 14 out in the 5 mins before they match the bid if that happens.

 

[HirdyLannister]

Think of the trade this way.

When Treloar racks up 30 disposals, Collingwood paid for 10 of them.

 

[Northernsoul74]

They would live trade 14 out in the 5 mins before they match the bid if that happens.

They gave us most of their later picks though. Someone like the Crows/North could get a very good deal.

 

[Damon_3388]

To be honest about it.

Everyone accepts that players had to be sold at this point, but telling Treloar and Stephenson that senior players wanted them out, they were hard to coach and the hadn’t ingratiated themselves with teammates - and informing them via management that they were up for trade - is really poor. Pretending that Collingwood chose to sell them to get into the draft is even worse.

To be honest, I couldn't care less what spin the media or the club put on it. I'm not sure why opposition supporters would either.

I can see what the objective was, and I'm comfortable with the outcome. I can foresee a way that it could make us a better side going forward, too. IMO, it's not nearly the "loss" some are making it out to be.

 

[Damon_3388]

The salt

The truth.

English is still woefully underdeveloped physically for his role, and Martin is cooked.

 

[Damon_3388]

If you hadn’t mismanaged your TPP, you wouldnt have traded three good players for 25c on the dollar.

So any criticism seems to involve changing the past, prior to the trade period. We were where we were by that stage, for better or worse.

Rewinding to the start of the trade period, what would you have done differently from a Collingwood perspective, in the situation you were in? Would you have been able to somehow extract a greater return?

 

[00Stinger]

Think of the trade this way.

When Treloar racks up 30 disposals, Collingwood paid for 10 of them.

Playing devils advocate here

That would mean Collingwood paid for 7 clangers/turnovers

 

[F_therest]

‘They’d say anything to move me on’: Adam Treloar refutes Buckley, Pies claims in ugly divorce

‘They’d say anything to move me on’: Treloar accuses Bucks, Pies of lying in ugly divorce

www.foxsports.com.au

Omg...Treloar confirming Buckley DID say to him that other senior Collingwood players don't want him around...and is saying that they were up for a fight to push him out. They weren't just pushing him out the door, they were putting up barricades once he had a foot out.

So that response from Buckley to Edmund who broke the story was a lie. Edmund said he was sticking with his story and he was right. Collingwood full of lies and spin right now.

 

[Northernsoul74]

‘They’d say anything to move me on’: Adam Treloar refutes Buckley, Pies claims in ugly divorce

‘They’d say anything to move me on’: Treloar accuses Bucks, Pies of lying in ugly divorce

www.foxsports.com.au

Omg...Treloar confirming Buckley DID say to him that other senior Collingwood players don't want him around...and is saying that they were up for a fight to push him out. They weren't just pushing him out the door, they were putting up barricades once he had a foot out.

So that response from Buckley to Edmund who broke the story was a lie. Edmund said he was sticking with his story and he was right. Collingwood full of lies and spin right now.

The leadership group also seem to have a different take on it from Buckley as well. Buckley saying the leadership group don’t want him, the leadership group reaching out to AT saying not true.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Treloar has actually played this well

Apparently he hasn't spoken to any other club, nor should he have to either

Collingwood offering to pay a measley 100k of a 900k per year contract isn't going to have many takers

I think it will play out that Treloar stays put, and Collingwood are going to have to hire an epic PR/spin doctor to try and undo the damage this has caused for future recruitment. If you are someone on the sidelines watching this, how could you possibly believe that any back ended deal offered from the club holds any weight?

Heads rightfully should roll after this fiasco

DK: But Ned you’re going to be paying some of this talent to play for other football clubs.

NG: We’re not going to go into the specifics ...

DK: We know you’re going to be paying portions, we don’t have to go into specific numbers but it does get to a point where the salary cap has forced you to subsidise other clubs.

NG: We’re not going to talk about players’ contracts.

 

[00Stinger]

‘They’d say anything to move me on’: Adam Treloar refutes Buckley, Pies claims in ugly divorce

‘They’d say anything to move me on’: Treloar accuses Bucks, Pies of lying in ugly divorce

www.foxsports.com.au

Omg...Treloar confirming Buckley DID say to him that other senior Collingwood players don't want him around...and is saying that they were up for a fight to push him out. They weren't just pushing him out the door, they were putting up barricades once he had a foot out.

So that response from Buckley to Edmund who broke the story was a lie. Edmund said he was sticking with his story and he was right. Collingwood full of lies and spin right now.

tbf Sam Edmund seems to be the most believable of all of the media journalists

 

[Blackhawk42]

Has to be bored schoolkids who run this page lpl

The comments on all this guys posts will tell you everything you need to know lol.

He had St.Kilda winning trade period because of Crouch and McKernan (yep) who they didn't even trade for.

 

[100action]

Pies traded Treloar out for (150 points) the equivalent of pick 65 and will still be paying a third of his wage. Trading doesn't get any worse than that.

im lazy, got a link to the calculation?

 

[iameviljez]

To be honest, I couldn't care less what spin the media or the club put on it. I'm not sure why opposition supporters would either.

I can see what the objective was, and I'm comfortable with the outcome. I can foresee a way that it could make us a better side going forward, too. IMO, it's not nearly the "loss" some are making it out to be.

Because it throws two players who have done nothing wrong - one of whom is only 20 and the other who has well documented mental health issues - completely under the bus.

 

[iameviljez]

He has broken his silence and it’s damning: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/nov/13/afl-trade-period-collingwood-nathan-buckley

 

[Messenger]

So any criticism seems to involve changing the past, prior to the trade period. We were where we were by that stage, for better or worse.

Rewinding to the start of the trade period, what would you have done differently from a Collingwood perspective, in the situation you were in? Would you have been able to somehow extract a greater return?

I don’t have to tell you how I’d fix it. That doesn‘t invalidate my criticism by any means.

Collingwood would have know this was coming down the pipeline for months. How many times did Treloar restructure his contract? And you signed the artist formerly known as Dayne Beams

11

Dayne Beams

Age

34

Ht

187cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.6

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.5

4star

T

3.6

5star

CL

4.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

15.6

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

, gave a massive extension to a player the clubs was unhappy with (Stevenson). Who oversees this? To whom does Ned Guy report?

If Ned Guy has this job after the draft, I’d be staggered.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

tbf Sam Edmund seems to be the most believable of all of the media journalists

In the era of mental health and welfare of players Edmund would of not just made it up without being 100% certain.

 

[iameviljez]

I don’t have to tell you how I’d fix it. That doesn‘t invalidate my criticism by any means.

Collingwood would have know this was coming down the pipeline for months. How many times did Treloar restructure his contract? And you signed the artist formerly known as Dayne Beams

11

Dayne Beams

Age

34

Ht

187cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.6

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.5

4star

T

3.6

5star

CL

4.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

15.6

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

, gave a massive extension to a player the clubs was unhappy with (Stevenson). Who oversees this? To whom does Ned Guy report?

If Ned Guy has this job after the draft, I’d be staggered.

I would have traded de Goey.