List Mgmt. Contracts, trades, draft - 2022 superstar edition

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Updated (20/3/24) the status of all contracts for people’s reference : Overall List - 44 Players : Main List(37), Rookie List(5), Cat B(2) Contracted until the end of 2027 (2) : Tom Barrass (8/10/95) - Signed a 5 year extension (2023,2024,2025,2026,2027) on an existing contract set to...
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  • Luke Shuey (2/6/90) - Signed a 4 year extension (2019,2020,2021,2022) on an existing contract set to expire 2018 in June 2017.-RETIRE
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2020,2021,2022) on an existing contract set to expire 2019 in November 2018.-KEEP
  • Willie Rioli (4/6/95) - Signed a 2 year extension (2021,2022) on an existing contract set to expire 2020 in May 2019-KEEP
  • Nic Naitanui (4/5/90) - Signed 3 year extension (2020,2021,2022) in June 2019.-KEEP
  • Bailey Williams (17/4/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2021,2022) on an existing contract set to expire 2020 in August 2019-GONE
  • Alex Witherden (10/9/98) - Signed a 2 year contract (2021,2022,) in November 2020*-KEEP
  • Isiah Winder (16/05/02) - Automatic 2 year contract when drafted in December 2020-GONE
  • Jackson Nelson (15/3/96) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in May 2021*-GONE
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in May 2021*-KEEP
  • (R) Zane Trew (26/4/02)- Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in May 2021*-KEEP
  • Jack Redden (9/12/90) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in September 2021-KEEP
  • (R) Jamaine Jones (29/9/98) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) as a rookie in October 2021-KEEP
  • (R) Connor West (7/5/99) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) as a rookie in October 2021-KEEP
  • Shannon Hurn (4/9/87) – Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in November 2021-RETIRE
  • Josh Kennedy (25/8/87) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in November 2021-RETIRE
  • (R) Hugh Dixon (26/2/99) - signed as a SSP selection in March 2022-GONE
  • (R) - Tom Joyce (7/3/00) - signed as a SSP selection in March 2022-GONE
  • (R) - Patrick Naish (15/1/99) - signed as a SSP selection in March 2022-KEEP
  • (R) - Luke Strnadica (1/1/98) - signed as a SSP selection in March 2022-GONE
 
footballfreak said:
  • Luke Shuey (2/6/90) - Signed a 4 year extension (2019,2020,2021,2022) on an existing contract set to expire 2018 in June 2017.-RETIRE
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2020,2021,2022) on an existing contract set to expire 2019 in November 2018.-KEEP
  • Willie Rioli (4/6/95) - Signed a 2 year extension (2021,2022) on an existing contract set to expire 2020 in May 2019-KEEP
  • Nic Naitanui (4/5/90) - Signed 3 year extension (2020,2021,2022) in June 2019.-KEEP
  • Bailey Williams (17/4/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2021,2022) on an existing contract set to expire 2020 in August 2019-GONE
  • Alex Witherden (10/9/98) - Signed a 2 year contract (2021,2022,) in November 2020*-KEEP
  • Isiah Winder (16/05/02) - Automatic 2 year contract when drafted in December 2020-GONE
  • Jackson Nelson (15/3/96) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in May 2021*-GONE
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in May 2021*-KEEP
  • (R) Zane Trew (26/4/02)- Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in May 2021*-KEEP
  • Jack Redden (9/12/90) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in September 2021-KEEP
  • (R) Jamaine Jones (29/9/98) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) as a rookie in October 2021-KEEP
  • (R) Connor West (7/5/99) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) as a rookie in October 2021-KEEP
  • Shannon Hurn (4/9/87) – Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in November 2021-RETIRE
  • Josh Kennedy (25/8/87) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in November 2021-RETIRE
  • (R) Hugh Dixon (26/2/99) - signed as a SSP selection in March 2022-GONE
  • (R) - Tom Joyce (7/3/00) - signed as a SSP selection in March 2022-GONE
  • (R) - Patrick Naish (15/1/99) - signed as a SSP selection in March 2022-KEEP
  • (R) - Luke Strnadica (1/1/98) - signed as a SSP selection in March 2022-GONE
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So your leaving only 2 rucks on our list? I get that both Williams or Strandica haven’t set the world on fire, Strandica is 25 next year and yet to do a full preseason and Williams is only 23 next year which is still young for most rucks. Depending on recruitments I think atleast one still need to be on the list. You also only leave Allen and darling as a the only key forward, J Williams is a long way away and who ever we draft as KP forward will also take a will.

Tricky management for the club. We need to find ways to get as many top picks as possible and make sure we hit them over the next 2-3 season while we will still get getting top ten picks.

But if someone like Jackson wants to come to your club you have to think about every way to make it work.

Exciting off-field times ahead for the club. Rough on field ones.


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new breed said:
Hoping pick 1 can net us a mini rebuild !!

Trade pick #1 for # 4 and #10 ....wont happen but need to try , the number 1 pick looks a bit of a raffle .
Then when we get pick #19 we also trade that for two picks in the 20's

Rebuilt !!
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Nah bro, still going to be behind teams like north Melbourne who have been doing this approach for years, even western bulldogs who essentially got two number 1 draft picks through academy and father son, collingwood etc
 

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If we end up with Pick 1 could we pick Ashcroft, forcing Brisbane to match the bid?
Hopefully ending up with Brisbanes 1st and 2nd rounder.
Also any chance we might end up with a priority pick?

Sorry for all the questions pretty new to BF.
 
footballfreak said:
  • Luke Shuey (2/6/90) - Signed a 4 year extension (2019,2020,2021,2022) on an existing contract set to expire 2018 in June 2017.-RETIRE
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2020,2021,2022) on an existing contract set to expire 2019 in November 2018.-KEEP
  • Willie Rioli (4/6/95) - Signed a 2 year extension (2021,2022) on an existing contract set to expire 2020 in May 2019-KEEP
  • Nic Naitanui (4/5/90) - Signed 3 year extension (2020,2021,2022) in June 2019.-KEEP
  • Bailey Williams (17/4/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2021,2022) on an existing contract set to expire 2020 in August 2019-GONE
  • Alex Witherden (10/9/98) - Signed a 2 year contract (2021,2022,) in November 2020*-KEEP
  • Isiah Winder (16/05/02) - Automatic 2 year contract when drafted in December 2020-GONE
  • Jackson Nelson (15/3/96) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in May 2021*-GONE
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in May 2021*-KEEP
  • (R) Zane Trew (26/4/02)- Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in May 2021*-KEEP
  • Jack Redden (9/12/90) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in September 2021-KEEP
  • (R) Jamaine Jones (29/9/98) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) as a rookie in October 2021-KEEP
  • (R) Connor West (7/5/99) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) as a rookie in October 2021-KEEP
  • Shannon Hurn (4/9/87) – Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in November 2021-RETIRE
  • Josh Kennedy (25/8/87) - Signed a 1 year extension (2022) in November 2021-RETIRE
  • (R) Hugh Dixon (26/2/99) - signed as a SSP selection in March 2022-GONE
  • (R) - Tom Joyce (7/3/00) - signed as a SSP selection in March 2022-GONE
  • (R) - Patrick Naish (15/1/99) - signed as a SSP selection in March 2022-KEEP
  • (R) - Luke Strnadica (1/1/98) - signed as a SSP selection in March 2022-GONE
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I'd def keep Williams and consider putting Winder on rookie list. Trew is in more danger of delisting than Winder.

Prob keep Dixon as depth for forward/ruck. Would consider Nic Nat retiring to be ruck coach, but he could also go one more year.

With your other changes, that's still 5 senior spots open. Doubt we take more than that in the draft. Would love to trade one of these mids in who can't get a game at another club (Roberton from Bris or that guy from GWS).
 
The_Gambler said:
Nah bro, still going to be behind teams like north Melbourne who have been doing this approach for years, even western bulldogs who essentially got two number 1 draft picks through academy and father son, collingwood etc
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I think if you went from when the draft got serious (I'm assuming last 90s or early 2000s) us or Geelong would have had the least number of top 10 picks by a long way. Yet we've both been very successful clubs. If you nail a couple of drafts, and develop well, you can jump up quickly.

It's when you stuff up drafts and spend years in the doldrums, that your senior players retire and you aren't left with anyone who knew success. That's how teams like blues and Dees got stuck in wilderness for so long. Tigers too.

In our last rebuild we did pretty well in 2008 draft (Nic and Shuey) and absolutely killed 2010 (Gaff, Darling, Lycett, Gov as Rookiee).

Hopefully we did alright last year and absolutely nail this year. One more next year and we could be sorted.
 
Rowan18 said:
I think if you went from when the draft got serious (I'm assuming last 90s or early 2000s) us or Geelong would have had the least number of top 10 picks by a long way. Yet we've both been very successful clubs. If you nail a couple of drafts, and develop well, you can jump up quickly.

It's when you stuff up drafts and spend years in the doldrums, that your senior players retire and you aren't left with anyone who knew success. That's how teams like blues and Dees got stuck in wilderness for so long. Tigers too.

In our last rebuild we did pretty well in 2008 draft (Nic and Shuey) and absolutely killed 2010 (Gaff, Darling, Lycett, Gov as Rookiee).

Hopefully we did alright last year and absolutely nail this year. One more next year and we could be sorted.
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This is different to previous rebuilds, we really have nothing else on the list in terms of A graders that are going to be around in 5 years time. Allen, Ryan, Barrass? that's three at a stretch. You need at least 10-12 really good players to compete for a premiership. We are coming from so far behind we need 3 perfect drafts.
 
Tugboat1 said:
If we end up with Pick 1 could we pick Ashcroft, forcing Brisbane to match the bid?
Hopefully ending up with Brisbanes 1st and 2nd rounder.
Also any chance we might end up with a priority pick?

Sorry for all the questions pretty new to BF.
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It doesn’t work like that.

We need points (attached to each pick) to match the Ashcroft bid.

We can trade you our first round pick for Ports second round pick that you hold, plus your third round pick.

We need our second round pick to help match the bid.
 
Rowan18 said:
I think if you went from when the draft got serious (I'm assuming last 90s or early 2000s) us or Geelong would have had the least number of top 10 picks by a long way. Yet we've both been very successful clubs. If you nail a couple of drafts, and develop well, you can jump up quickly.

It's when you stuff up drafts and spend years in the doldrums, that your senior players retire and you aren't left with anyone who knew success. That's how teams like blues and Dees got stuck in wilderness for so long. Tigers too.

In our last rebuild we did pretty well in 2008 draft (Nic and Shuey) and absolutely killed 2010 (Gaff, Darling, Lycett, Gov as Rookiee).

Hopefully we did alright last year and absolutely nail this year. One more next year and we could be sorted.
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Drafting is only part of the equation.
Player development and club culture play a significant role in how well and how fast a list comes on. And right now we have a lot of issues at the club that suggests we're lacking in those areas.
 
MrWoollie said:
The league gave GC pick #1 as a priority pick in 2019. I'd call that recently.
Based on last 3 years performance, Norf is worse over the 2020-22 period than GC were over the 2017-19 period.

Priority1Matt RowellGold CoastOakleigh ChargersNAB League
Rd 12Noah AndersonGold CoastOakleigh Chargers
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That was because Rowell was the clear #1 and his best mate was highly likely #2, so the AFL arranged things so that both could go to Gold Coast in the hope that they'd stay there for the opportunity to continue to play together. It was an opportunity to try and stop the bleeding of top picks from the Suns after their initial contract.

North aren't at such a risk, and #1 and #2 this year aren't going to be lifelong best mates.
 
Patron said:
This is different to previous rebuilds, we really have nothing else on the list in terms of A graders that are going to be around in 5 years time. Allen, Ryan, Barrass? that's three at a stretch. You need at least 10-12 really good players to compete for a premiership. We are coming from so far behind we need 3 perfect drafts.
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Agree that you need 10-12 really good players (A or B grade) to challenge, but certainly not 10-12 A graders (I know you didn't say that, so apologies if you feel you are being mis-quoted!).

Lets say Allen, Ryan and Barrass are 3 A grade or potential A grade players. Other potentials are J Williams, Bazzo, Chesser and Hough (none of whom have shown they will get there yet of course, but none have had the chance to show it being drafted so recently). Basically we need 1 of those to come on to A grade to fast track the rebuild (2 would be amazing).

B graders is where it gets interesting - as we do seem to have a number of players who might push into that category (Clark, West, JJ, Naish, CJ, L Edwards, H Edwards - then guys like SPS, Cole, Witherden, Duggan, Winder are a little further back but there is enough to work with that if there is rapid improvement it might happen).

If, by the end of the 2023 season, we can somehow ensure we have around 8 or ideally more players of at least B grade output (then some C graders who can have the odd A grade game) then we will be in a decent spot. That's a bit over 30-games of AFL development, which is quite a lot, and as above we have a bit to work with (but a lot more to work on).

West - disposal. People argue that can't be fixed - I could not disagree more. Mechanics of kicking, I'm no expert but it's probably likely that is set in stone - but kicking within limitations goes a huge way to improving efficiency (also needs to become an elite handballer - and naturally with more games he will start to find more time with the ball to make better decisions)

Clark - looks on track to become a decent player. Needs more mid-time

JJ - needs consistency of position, and of fitness. Ideal Cripps replacement going forward

CJ - not ready yet, but keep playing him. He's competing and learning

Hough - get his body right, and if he is fit he plays AFL


It's the only real silver lining of being so uncompetitive - the opportunity to teach young players earlier/faster than we otherwise would. I'm not sure how many of those listed will ever get to B grade (let alone A grade), but we've got a year and a half to find out (plus 2 x draft cohorts in that time to bring in more potential A graders).
 
Eastcoasteagle said:
Exactly, and also a view on the rebuild and identifying the best young talent (18-20) for the future rather than another mature age player for right now.

If we did add Florenca with West, Clark, Naish and Joyce already on our list as mature age mids over the best young talent, it's terrible recruiting. Essentially a WAFL side.
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FYI Eastcoasteagle

Florenca hasn't asked for an exemption for the MSD yet.

Florenca will need to apply for an exemption for the mid-season draft after not nominating for last year’s draft.
 
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