Autopsy Wayne Carey: "Jack > Buddy"

Discussion in 'AFL - The Australian Football League' started by cannot, Oct 3, 2017.

Put it out there
  1. RainMachine

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  2. Sydswans666

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    Buddy took more Contested marks than Jack this year....
     
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    Nice rant, stats only ever tell part of the story of course Buddy is a better player than Riewoldt but Jack had a job to do this year that didnt always involve him being the star or require him to kick goals, he did the job beautifully and now has a Premiership medalion to go with his two Colemans and AA selection.
    Also raked in 3 beautiful marks in the GF two of which were beyond Buddies abilities;)
     
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    I wonder if Carey and Matthews have an internal bet about who can convince the football public of the most ridiculous idea first. Because both of them come out with one horrible idea after another.
     
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    I've watched both Riewoldt and Hawkins for a decade and J. Riewoldt is the Milhouse of AFL FF's.
     
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    Then surely Tubby Hawkins is the Ralph Wiggum
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    Lol@ Carey and lol @ this thread

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    Richmond have the best players ever in the entire history of footballs
     
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    Is there any Simpsons character that isn't a doofus? it's not like you can say "well Buddy is the homer Simpson... etc"


    Hmm

    Preseason....
     
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    the stats I would be more interested in would be pressure acts, score involvements and goal assists. we all know Jack has got Hawkins covered in that area!
     
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    But Jack was no.1 in inside 50 marks.......
     
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    The point was made that Buddy can't mark...
    He took more Contested than Jack, not bad for somebody that can't mark.
    It should be inside 70 for Buddy.
     
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    Yet scored less goals, probably indicates the extra ground work Franklin supplies. Franklin also came close to double jacks goal assists. So marks inside 50 seems a pretty useless stat.
     
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    LMAO.

    SINCE 2010: Rankings for Contested Marks (R=Riewoldt, F=Franklin)

    2010: R=2nd F=18th
    2011: R=12th F=15th
    2012: R=7th F=7th
    2013: R=20th F=26th
    2014: R=21st F=2nd
    2015: R=6th F=65th
    2016: R=9th F=13th
    2017: R=15th F=10th

    So Jack has beaten him 5 times, drew once and lost twice......
     
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    Not bad for someone that can't mark
     
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    He is also much taller than Jack which should be an advantage to mark....
     
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    Jacks much smaller so he should be better on the ground..
    Seriously who cares, Jacks not in the best 5 forwards in the league let alone up against Buddy.
     
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    Jack is as important to Richmond as Buddy is to Sydney but as a pure footballer there is no comparison. Buddy is clearly the better footballer.
     
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    But Jack has a better football brain.
     
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    Jack doesn't have a brain
     
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    Aren't you a treat.
     
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    The whole thread is about arguing Jack Riewoldt is better than Buddy. He's not, and anyone that tries to argue he is, is a complete ******* moron. Buddy won every stat, but its 'not all about stats'. Ok then. I'm glad that your metric of success is flashy marks. Given the mark Wingard took in 2014, he must be worth 10 Buddy Franklins, am I doing it right?
     
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    Agreed, its so easy to get carried away when you're in the media
     
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    Well there's no point having a conversation about the dumbest comparison in football.
    The comparision would be like Dustin Martin vs Murphy