Banter Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood?

[PieLebo87]

Mainly here so we can enjoy the LOLs afterwards at the end of 2023, but also an interesting discussion point.

I’m in genuine two minds and can’t call it, but who do you see finishing higher in 2023?

Who is positioned better from a list/team perspective?

Let the games begin…

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[Arr0w]

That's correct. We're not the one's kidding ourselves about where we're at in 2024?

But I guess it is March, one of the 8 or 9 months of the year where Carlton supporters do their best work (excluding July, August and September).

Nice backtrack, but true to form

What was it, Pies back2back and Carlton 16th?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Who's going to replace Schultz for the Pies when he gets dropped in a few weeks if he keeps stinking it up?

 

[YeoShuey]

We keep turning up, where have you been?

In the time since you last played in a Grand Final (1999) we’ve played in six.

Trust me. You wouldn’t want us turning up because Carlton don’t lose GFs to teams like Collingwood. Collingwood were incredibly lucky to avoid us in the GF last year as the result would have been different.

Played in six, won two. Sad.

 

[YeoShuey]

Who's going to replace Schultz for the Pies when he gets dropped in a few weeks if he keeps stinking it up?

They’ll probably try to trade him back for their first draft pick but Freo will be laughing all the way to the bank.

 

[Worm4]

Carlton's opponents now 0-9

Talk about easing a team into the season.

Carltons opponents 0 and 9
Fremantle opponents 0 and 9
Who do you think will win the Owen cup next week ?

 

[76woodenspooners]

To summarise, their argument is basically

Carlton are no good because they only beat Brisbane, North and Richmond

Yet they counter argue by saying that

Collingwood are so good because they beat Brisbane.

Who needs logic in this thread?

Not true.

The reason we reckon we’re so good is because we’ve just added this nice new piece of silverware to our trophy cabinet.

 

[YeoShuey]

Not true.

The reason we reckon we’re so good is because we’ve just added this nice new piece of silverware to our trophy cabinet.

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Must be nice to have favourable umpiring throughout the finals series. I’d have no idea about that.

 

[Fadge]

Must be nice to have favourable umpiring throughout the finals series. I’d have no idea about that.

Nah, you guys just get favourable umpiring to get there once a decade.

But once you're there, and the umpires put their whistles away, you fall well short of the genuine contenders...

 

[76woodenspooners]

Trust me. You wouldn’t want us turning up because Carlton don’t lose GFs to teams like Collingwood. Collingwood were incredibly lucky to avoid us in the GF last year as the result would have been different.

Yeah right.

The last Grand Final you played in you lost to … checks record … North Melbourne

Played in six, won two. Sad.

Be that as it may, that’s nowhere near as sad as winning five wooden spoons in the same period.

 

[doppleganger]

Carltons opponents 0 and 9
Fremantle opponents 0 and 9
Who do you think will win the Owen cup next week ?

If Charlie and Harry get 8 frees again, probably Carlton.

 

[YeoShuey]

Yeah right.

The last Grand Final you played in you lost to … checks record … North Melbourne



Be that as it may, that’s nowhere near as sad as winning five wooden spoons in the same period.

Let’s check the record again.

How many times have Collingwood beaten Carlton in a Grand Final?
How many times have Carlton beaten Collingwood in a Grand Final since then?

 

[Fadge]

If Charlie and Harry get 8 frees again, probably Carlton.

Fremantle's win against Brisbane far more impressive, and Adelaide a much stronger opponent than Richmond.

Both teams have played and beaten North comfortably, albeit Carlton aided by the most ridiculously one-sided umpiring I have seen in a long, long time.

Fremantle clearly the favourites in this one on neutral territory.

 

[carlton_99]

If Charlie and Harry get 8 frees again, probably Carlton.

Ah yes let's just not pay clear free kicks...

 

[carlton_99]

Fremantle's win against Brisbane far more impressive, and Adelaide a much stronger opponent than Richmond.

Both teams have played and beaten North comfortably, albeit Carlton aided by the most ridiculously one-sided umpiring I have seen in a long, long time.

Fremantle clearly the favourites in this one on neutral territory.

Collingwood supporters dicussing one-sided umpiring... oh the irony

 

[doppleganger]

Ah yes let's just not pay clear free kicks...

Aka finals football

 

[Arr0w]

It's really salty here, love it

Juan and 3

 

[carlton_99]

Aka finals football

Just came up against good defenders. He'll learn from it

 

[76woodenspooners]

Let’s check the record again.

How many times have Collingwood beaten Carlton in a Grand Final?
How many times have Carlton beaten Collingwood in a Grand Final since then?

You’re being silly now, how can you claim bragging rights on a stat that you haven’t turned up to for 28 years?

It’d be like Adelaide claiming bragging rights over Collingwood because we’ve never beaten them in a derby

 

[Fadge]

Carlton in the 21st Century:

Owen 5

Ratio of years genuinely contending for a premiership against wooden spoons.

 

[Fadge]

You’re being silly now, how can you claim bragging rights on a stat that you haven’t turned up to for 28 years?

It’d be like Adelaide claiming bragging rights over Collingwood because we’ve never beaten them in a derby

Why would you be so surprised?

It's what you go with when you've got nothing.

 

[YeoShuey]

You’re being silly now, how can you claim bragging rights on a stat that you haven’t turned up to for 28 years?

It’d be like Adelaide claiming bragging rights over Collingwood because we’ve never beaten them in a derby

Your refusal to answer the question and to instead dodge/evade says it all really.

 

[Doc1763]

You’ve won one game against a struggling Brisbane.

by 20 times more than you did

 

[Fadge]

by 20 times more than you did

Yeah, but remember they were 46 points behind at one stage?

And apparently Brisbane played much better in round 0 than they have in either of their other losses....

 

[Doc1763]

Trust me. You wouldn’t want us turning up because Carlton don’t lose GFs to teams like Collingwood. Collingwood were incredibly lucky to avoid us in the GF last year as the result would have been different.

Played in six, won two. Sad.

but alas, you lost to the team we beat

 

[carlton_99]

Carlton in the 21st Century:

Owen 5

Ratio of years genuinely contending for a premiership against wooden spoons.

Back to discussing history again rather than 2024...?