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I'm feeling fine whatever happens. Life's good. But thanks for your care.Will that make you feel better
I think it is a little shallow to take out of this that the club needs to take a look at their media relations area (that may be true). The cameraman issue was poor, so perhaps you are right.Nisbett (and Simpson) had no choice but to talk to the press, Had they refused they would have copped flack. Throughout the talk they both constantly said that both the club and Gaff had to own the situation and cop the penalty. Both emphasized that the process was underway and they would wait for that process to be completed. The media are pushing the line that both said they believed Gaff when he said it was not intentional. By that both meant the whack in the head was not intentional. They never denied the hit happened but were trying to explain that Gaff hadn't tried to "king hit" Brayshaw off the ball but had been trying to hit him across the chest to get away from the tag. Both said several times Gaff had got it horribly wrong. There is nothing wrong with a club trying to explain why a guy who had never done anything similar had done what occurred. The alternative would have been to say nothing and let everyone think the intention had been to "king hit" Brayshaw for no apparent reason. Any club would do the same. Of course that rabble calling themselves the media aren't interested in that and want to make more of it.
Having said that, Nisbett needs to ensure he uses better language when talking to those vultures and don't state things as facts unless he knows they are. It's pretty irrelevant but stating that they all played golf when it seems that hasn't been fully established just leaves him open to criticism. The situation with the cameraman on the NicNat injury was also poor as Simpson said one thing and was contradicted by Nisbett later. The club needs to look closely at it's media relations area (Gary Stocks)
It's all a major over reaction IMO. This will be okay until the first player gets rubbed out for a feather tap and then the footy world will explode again. Are we going to allow this inept MRO system to handle that? He just dished out a fine of 2K to Aaron Francis for a perfectly legitimate bump last weekend...It will be abused. The players themselves need to sort this out, not a rule change. The AFL system actually handled the Gaff incident very well considering the appalling reporting and mass hysteria over the whole thing. Ask yourself this question: Do we want Gaeilic Football as the replacement for Aussie Rules?I think it should be a week for swinging a punch or elbow, not even connecting (I mean an action that is ruled deliberate). Two weeks as soon as you connect and add weeks for severity after that. No player has any need to deliberately swing a punch or elbow. Swinging punches isn't part of the game. Then there is no "I meant to hit him in the guts". As soon as you say that, you're suspended.
Poor Gaff such a victimAnd people who did this were taken care with physical abuse similar to what Gaff did for decades. We want it out of the game so take it all out of the game.
It's all a major over reaction IMO. This will be okay until the first player gets rubbed out for a feather tap and then the footy world will explode again. Are we going to allow this inept MRO system to handle that? He just dished out a fine of 2K to Aaron Francis for a perfectly legitimate bump last weekend...It will be abused. The players themselves need to sort this out, not a rule change. The AFL system actually handled the Gaff incident very well considering the appalling reporting and mass hysteria over the whole thing. Ask yourself this question: Do we want Gaeilic Football as the replacement for Aussie Rules?
Poor Gaff such a victim
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How ridiculous was the fine given to Francis? Surely we can't allow the MRO to be dishing out penalties with regards to any punches thrown? It's been a complete disaster this year!Francis and Cunnington both fined from the weekend. That's the system we have right now.
He knew the relationship between the two was tenuous at best. Overplayed it like a shonk.Nisbett (and Simpson) had no choice but to talk to the press, Had they refused they would have copped flack. Throughout the talk they both constantly said that both the club and Gaff had to own the situation and cop the penalty. Both emphasized that the process was underway and they would wait for that process to be completed. The media are pushing the line that both said they believed Gaff when he said it was not intentional. By that both meant the whack in the head was not intentional. They never denied the hit happened but were trying to explain that Gaff hadn't tried to "king hit" Brayshaw off the ball but had been trying to hit him across the chest to get away from the tag. Both said several times Gaff had got it horribly wrong. There is nothing wrong with a club trying to explain why a guy who had never done anything similar had done what occurred. The alternative would have been to say nothing and let everyone think the intention had been to "king hit" Brayshaw for no apparent reason. Any club would do the same. Of course that rabble calling themselves the media aren't interested in that and want to make more of it.
Having said that, Nisbett needs to ensure he uses better language when talking to those vultures and don't state things as facts unless he knows they are. It's pretty irrelevant but stating that they all played golf when it seems that hasn't been fully established just leaves him open to criticism. The situation with the cameraman on the NicNat injury was also poor as Simpson said one thing and was contradicted by Nisbett later. The club needs to look closely at it's media relations area (Gary Stocks)
How ridiculous was the fine given to Francis? Surely we can't allow the MRO to be dishing out penalties with regards to any punches thrown? It's been a complete disaster this year!
And if you tackled someone at work?I would lose my job and be deregistered by my professional body if I did what Gaff did. How about you?
I've only seen it once or twice but unless I'm mistaken O'Meara was fine and there was no high contact. Boggles the mind.
The AFL's stance on punches is that it's not acceptable. Except when it is. Punch someone to the body you'll probably get a fine. Jumper punch someone to the face you'll probably get a fine. Punch to the face you might get a week, you might not. Punch someone and knock them out, break their jaw etc. and it's the biggest scandal since whatever the most recent scandal was.
Essentially, what you're saying here is that a punch to the face is as much a part of footy as a tackle. You're saying that my job and the job of a footballer differ by the presence of such acts as tackling and punching people in the face.And if you tackled someone at work?
It seems like the last few years that punches (inc to the head) have been treated a lot more lenient than bumps/tackles with head contact.
No, the point is to say that the workplace and football field are not in any way comparable, so pointing out that you would get fired for punching someone at work is wholly irrelevant. Punches certainly aren't a part of football and yet they happen in every game, sometimes with consequences and sometimes not. The AFL has a system in place for dealing with people that go too far, one the players accept. If the Players Association wants to make changes to that system to allowing 'firings' and police action, they absolutely can take it up with the AFL.Essentially, what you're saying here is that a punch to the face is as much a part of footy as a tackle. You're saying that my job and the job of a footballer differ by the presence of such acts as tackling and punching people in the face.
Soon as he heads to Victoria it will be BAU out westhttps://www.playersvoice.com.au/mark-brayshaw-he-meant-my-son-no-harm/#uWMJemr2VswhLCkX.97
Just saw this posted on WC board. Probably time to let it go
https://www.playersvoice.com.au/mark-brayshaw-he-meant-my-son-no-harm/#uWMJemr2VswhLCkX.97
Just saw this posted on WC board. Probably time to let it go
The 'what if X happened in the street?' stuff is a bit much.
People don't want to admit it after an incident like what we've just seen but footy is a physical game and punches are unfortunately part of it. Left hooks and uppercuts very rarely, but most weeks you see jumper punches, 'love taps' etc. going on and it's tacitly accepted.
Throwing a punch in footy is unacceptable but it's not the same as doing it in a game of cricket or tennis. Even in soccer and basketball which are technically non-contact sports, throwing a punch isn't viewed the same as it is in footy/rugby/ice hockey.
What a zinger.
Richmond fans seem almost as invested as Freo fans, what is that about?
Yeah you don't get people niggling you in the street or in non contact sports like players do in football, especially taggers whose role is to put playmakers off their game by niggling, scragging, blocking etc which was Brayshaw's role on Gaff.
I'm not saying Brayshaw deserved to have his jaw broken but at the same time he wasn't innocently minding his own business and Gaff out of the blue ran over and whacked him like you see with some of those coward punch incidents in the street.
Gaff still deserved a lengthy suspension due to the outcome of his reckless actions but some of the outrage calling for 12 month bans, life bans, jail time etc are way over the top and are mostly from people that have never played contact sports and don't realise that tempers get frayed and s**t like this happens.
Wtf dude. What I am saying that just because you cant do it at any random job, doesnt mean you cant do it in a footy game.Essentially, what you're saying here is that a punch to the face is as much a part of footy as a tackle. You're saying that my job and the job of a footballer differ by the presence of such acts as tackling and punching people in the face.