List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

24

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

26

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

32

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

33

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

35

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

27

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

27

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[Jack Stevens]

I saw the Saints TV Facebook post and jumped straight on BigFooty. 10+ new pages on the trade thread, I thought there must been a media announcement and that I'd have some nice meaty, robust discussion about Ladhams to peruse over the evening.

To say I was disappointed after reading the 10th new page in a row about Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

is an understatement.

 

[crasha301]

Jon Ralph reported yesterday that we are looking for a cheap, back-up type rather than someone more expensive like Ladhams, so I would take this with a grain of salt for now like any 'inside info' that appears on a Facebook page.

Some say take what Jon Ralph says with a grain of salt.



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[BrutThough]

Future second rounder? He'll want out of the Dees you'd imagine.

A 2nd rounder is over for him at this stage.

Closer to the future 4th that Peter Wright went for, though his contract impacted the trade value a bit.

 

[BrutThough]

Some say take what Jon Ralph says with a grain of salt.



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Would take what Jon Ralph reports on a legitimate news outlet over Facebook whispers every time.

 

[hangdog]

So confused how Collingwood get anything done. With the facts that they will have there entire draft hand eaten up by diacos and a super tight salary cap

Straight swap Mayne

 

[Bill Mohr]

We have a gun half back, #35.
Hind has speed. Sincs offers speed, very good footy IQ and great use of the ball by foot.
There is no comparison.

Stating there is no comparison is not correct. Both players had very good years at their respective clubs. Not a stats debate but both had similar figures. Hind was widely lauded by most football analysts for his performances this year. They cant all be wrong surely? Sinclair was widely praised as well for his good year.

Look at things objectively.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Don’t leave us hanging Saints TV

 

[hangdog]

Love Saints TV but I'm not too sure of how legitimate this is since there's been very little reporting on any mutual interest between us and Ladhams. If it's true though I think it's gonna be pretty interesting! Wouldn't mind him for once Paddy's done.

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Surely Ladhams would play more forward. Marshall is proven in the ruck.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Stating there is no comparison is not correct. Both players had very good years at their respective clubs. Not a stats debate but both had similar figures. Hind was widely lauded by most football analysts for his performances this year. They cant all be wrong surely? Sinclair was widely praised as well for his good year.

Look at things objectively.

I am. And I still believe Sinclair is a far smarter user of the ball.
His run out of the backline and entry into inside 50 are superior by my eye test.

My family are Bombers supporters so I probably watched all of his games. I didn’t say he couldn’t play, he was very good - but for me Sincs shows more.

 

[The_Snake26]

Can someone explain to me how dodo would be a genius to pull off signing a delisted free agent? FMD the bloke is like the second coming of Jesus Christ

 

[Bill Mohr]

I'm not saying they weren't but more that they don't have to be tall. We currently have Members, Sharman, King, Snags (plays a lead up game as well as the more crumbing role), Marshall drops back and we're bringing in B King. I'm not sure you can play all of this guys in one forward line. Still have to fit some smaller types in to the front 6.

It wont work

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Can someone explain to me how dodo would be a genius to pull off signing a delisted free agent? FMD the bloke is like the second coming of Jesus Christ

Wonder if dodoro Will be labeled a genius when dunstans kicking it up his ass every game

 

[Monika72]

Dunstan just needs another 120 games to find his feet. Give him time.

Then Geelong will pick him up

 

[hangdog]

Hind finished 8th in Bombers B&F. Happy for him.

Sinclair second in ours?

 

[Bill Mohr]

Fully expect some good listed contracted players will be moved on and there are still a lot of players that are waiting on trade period
Ross , Dunstan , Lonie and that's just our list - Gold Coast want to unload Brodie , Constable wants a new home , SPS wants to go to WCE ,
Finlayson wants out of GWS , Wiedeman will be moving , Brander still waiting to see what happens , Riccardi was wanting out.
Still plenty going to happen.

But are they the lonies, Ross and Dunstans of those clubs? Nothing jumping out at me there, probably Finlayson but we dont want that type. Dont want to end up with list cloggers.

 

[Bill Mohr]

Hind finished 8th in Bombers B&F. Happy for him.

Sinclair second in ours?

So what is the question? Probably need to look at the Bombers midfield which is reasonably strong including Stringer, so he was never going to finish top 5. They made the finals as well and beaten by the team which could be the GF winners next week. So fair to say he was in a stronger team.

 

[Premium]

But are they the lonies, Ross and Dunstans of those clubs? Nothing jumping out at me there, probably Finlayson but we dont want that type. Dont want to end up with list cloggers.

I feel Ladhams would be a good get but how much are they willing to trade for him.

 

[JediSaint]

 

[sammm]

I mentioned to a few in PM a few months back. That a number of “Stkilda” media personalities are adamant he is coming.

I hope we don't give up 'the farm' for him.

 

[Bill Mohr]

I feel Ladhams would be a good get but how much are they willing to trade for him.

Yes, he is one that does stand out. Most clubs are generally getting by with one ruckman but every year they are in demand. They do seem to get injured a lot and clubs are often left short. Not sure if he would fit in the forward line- too many talls is not a formula for success. He would cost a bit I would think but seems a good type. Unless he is prepared to spend 10 games in the magoos then its a no.

 

[Premium]

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After this season having to start with a late ring in Rookie with PHunter , I feel they don't want to be in that situation again and Ladhams has shown more than enough ability to fill the ruck position.

 

[Premium]

Yes, he is one that does stand out. Most clubs are generally getting by with one ruckman but every year they are in demand. They do seem to get injured a lot and clubs are often left short. Not sure if he would fit in the forward line- too many talls is not a formula for success. He would cost a bit I would think but seems a good type. Unless he is prepared to spend 10 games in the magoos then its a no.

It could be the right decision or the wrong one , all depends how many games Ryder can play next season.
If Ryder breaks down Ladhams will most probably take the number one spot and Marshall move to CHF.

 

[HillToKing]

Collingwood Krueger's preferred choice the same way that Collingwood were getting Enright?

 

[Bill Mohr]

It could be the right decision or the wrong one , all depends how many games Ryder can play next season.
If Ryder breaks down Ladhams will most probably take the number one spot and Marshall move to CHF.

Have suggested Marshall for CHF for ages. The scenario you suggest would be the perfect way out. I think Ryder is tougher than people think and he might hang on for a while yet which would put a spanner in the works- ala 3 ruckmen.

 

[hangdog]

So what is the question? Probably need to look at the Bombers midfield which is reasonably strong including Stringer, so he was never going to finish top 5. They made the finals as well and beaten by the team which could be the GF winners next week. So fair to say he was in a stronger team.

No question. Just genuinely forgot where Sinclair finished.

I think trading Hind was a win-win. We got the best out of Sinclair, they got the best out of Hind.