Traded Jordan Clark and F4 traded to Fremantle for #22 and F3 (Carl)

[CatToTheFuture]

Will either turn out to be better than Cerra or a total bust.

What if Cerra turns into a bust?

 

[Rhayader]

Well, looks like Rendell has no idea either.

A big reshuffle – and a young gun’s possible trade: Likely domino effect of Cats’ shock signing

A big reshuffle – and another trade: Likely domino effect of Cats’ shock signing

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“Smith gives them another winger, so Menegola and Duncan and Blicavs run through there and now you would think Smith’s going to play on there,” Rendell told AFL Trade Radio.

“They’ve got to reshuffle some of their players through midfield there forward or maybe even back.”

One player Rendell definitely couldn’t fit into the side as a result of Smith’s arrival was Jordan Clark

6

Jordan Clark

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

, whose future at the Cats now appears uncertain.

Clark, a WA product that was taken with Pick 15 in the star-studded 2018 national draft, burst onto the AFL scene in his first season, playing 18 of the Cats’ first 19 games as he secured a spot on the wing."

Here's someone else with no idea..............apart from agreeing with Rendell.

Inside Trading: Pies' Rising Star on the table, cloud over speedy Cat

Jaidyn Stephenson joins several Collingwood teammates on the trade table, plus all the free agency latest

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Where to for Cats youngster?
Jordan Clark

6

Jordan Clark

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

's future at Geelong is cloudy after the Cats poached Hawthorn free agent Isaac Smith

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Isaac Smith

Age

35

Ht

188cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

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D

21.3

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.4

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.4

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.3

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.5

3star

CL

1.3

4star

D

19.2

5star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

7.6

5star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.6

3star

to play on the wing.

Clark was squeezed out of the Cats' line-up this season and missed their Grand Final last week against Richmond, instead winning the quarter-time sprint.

He has two years to run on a contract with the club but faces tougher competition to maintain his preferred spot in the Cats' midfield.

Wow, looks like even Geelong have no idea either boys.

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JordanClark

The sky is the limit in 2020. After an interrupted pre-season due to illness, the speedster still made his debut in round one and provided an X-factor for Geelong across half-back. He quickly graduated to the wing before a nasty elbow injury at training ahead of round 21 derailed his promising season. A return via the VFL late in the year was short-lived and he was sent for surgery at season’s end. The former junior Australian cricket representative has signed a contract extension to 2022. Player Sponsor: Giang Nguyen
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Well blow me down with a feather, even Jordan must have no idea about himself

The humble half-back who came from the draft clouds

Jordan Clark has failed spectacularly at his plan to fly under the radar in 2018. But that’s about the only thing the 18-year-old hasn’t succeeded at this year.

thewest.com.au

“A homegrown kid,” Harris said. “I couldn’t see why you wouldn’t. I think he’s going to be a long-term player. Once he gets physically strong and in the system he’s going to be an elite talent.”

Jordan, whose favourite player is West Coast star Elliot Yeo

6

Elliot Yeo

Age

30

Ht

191cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.5

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.5

5star

MG

377.9

5star

D

18.9

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

5.8

5star

MG

287.4

4star

D

16.6

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.6

3star

, starred at half-back this year but he only played the role for the first time last year and is still learning.

He grew a few centimetres to 185cm this year but doubts there is much more height to come and is open-minded about where he might end up in the future.

“I’ve always played as a junior mid-forward,” he said.

“I sometimes get a bit of a spray for not being accountable enough to my man. I love attacking and intercepting, it’s good fu

Interesting that Yeo is Clark's favorite player. Now how did Yeo develop? Ahhhh, at the Lions he played defense for the first two years, then went to the Eagles and won AA at half back. And what happened next, Yeo always wanted to play mid so when his body was built up he is now one of the competitions best big inside mids.

Who would have thought THAT hey? A young skinny kid gets developed at AFL level on a flank before playing his preferred position. What a silly idea that Clark may just do the same...............the same as dozens of other skinny kids who get developed on a flank before moving to their best position.


So Godfather, all of this has led me to holding my opinion on Clark. Its almost like I've educated myself on the background of the player and also know a little bit about how skinny kids get developed at AFL level. But you, you talk like a 'flat earther' who can't see nor think past the horizon. You obviously do not understand how a skinny kid 18 - 20 may just take 3-4 years to find their feet at AFL level and during that time get developed either forward or back to help round out their game. As Clark himself said he only just started playing half back in his draft year, prefers mid / forward but the coaches want him to be more defensive. You learn that playing defense, not a hard concept really.

Well, I best trot off and get ready, got to go pick up half a dozen lads and go to footy. Its great being an u16 coach.

PS: Instead of being a whimp and LOLing and saying " U got no idea" how's about you back up your thoughts with something substantial. Because when people LOL its a fair indication they have nothing. Ahh...there it is, another "I have no idea LOL from Godfather". Put up or shut up mate.

Hello police? I’d like to report a murder ...

 

[Quokka]

Absolutely not. Geelong drafted him to play as a rebounding and running half back flanker, not a half forward or 'midfielder'. So no, picking up Higgins, Smith, Dahlhaus and Steven has and will not have any bearing on Clark's selection our side.

At some point you are going to have to tell Geelong that.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

At some point you are going to have to tell Geelong that.

Geelong already know that.

 

[catman2006]

Would Freo do Clarke and pick 33 for Fyfe

 

[raffrox]

Would Freo do Clarke and pick 33 for Fyfe

And would GWS trade Cameron for a late fourth rounder?

Don't go changing Cats supporters.

 

[catman2006]

And would GWS trade Cameron for a late fourth rounder?

Don't go changing Cats supporters.

You just made my point about your chances getting Clark

 

[Obeanie1]

Would Freo do Clarke and pick 33 for Fyfe

And really how would Geelong fit Fyfe under their salary cap?

We seem to hear all these little stories about $1 pubs and land developers chipping in to 'pad' things up in the background but seriously if Geelong traded in Fyfe everyone would be saying WTF, how can they afford another star on big coin.

Anyway, the fashion industry and catwalks in Geelong aren't big enough for Fyfe.

 

[catman2006]

And really how would Geelong fit Fyfe under their salary cap?

We seem to hear all these little stories about $1 pubs and land developers chipping in to 'pad' things up in the background but seriously if Geelong traded in Fyfe everyone would be saying WTF, how can they afford another star on big coin.

Anyway, the fashion industry and catwalks in Geelong aren't big enough for Fyfe.

We couldnt fit him in tpp without losing players even if we wanted too

 

[nurries]

We couldnt fit him into the Simmonds homes build program

Fixed it for ya

 

[catman2006]

Fixed it for ya

You forgot $1 pub

 

[Obeanie1]

You forgot $1 pub

Covid has stuffed pubs so not much value there these days.

Everyone needs a roof over their heads though, especially in Victoria.

 

[raffrox]

You just made my point about your chances getting Clark

You just made my point about why discussing anything with a Geelong supporter during trade week is a complete and utter waste of time.

Is this where you jump across to the Cameron thread and spout something about how Geelong should get him for a back of chips?

I'm not fussed at all if we don't get Clark though.

 

[The 747]

And really how would Geelong fit Fyfe under their salary cap?

We seem to hear all these little stories about $1 pubs and land developers chipping in to 'pad' things up in the background but seriously if Geelong traded in Fyfe everyone would be saying WTF, how can they afford another star on big coin.

Anyway, the fashion industry and catwalks in Geelong aren't big enough for Fyfe.

You are incredibly naive if you don't think all clubs don't do that. And especially the very rich club over in WA.

 

[The 747]

What would Freo realistically offer for Clark if they wanted to prise him out, knowing he is contracted and wanted by us?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

This thread got really pissy really quickly

One aspect to consider here is everyone is looking at Smith coming in and saying Clark is out. No one is looking at Menegola. Don't get me wrong I'd take Menegola over Smith at this point but also consider he was a mature ager who has never had big contract and likely won't get one that reflects his value at the cats. He also has probably 4 years left in him.

If your choice is to keep Menegola on a contract that is below what he could get elsewhere after his late start, then potentiality lose Clark for opportunity at other clubs then it's probably not ideal for any party involved.

If your choice is instead to let Menegola go to a club where he gets paid in a manner reflecting his 2020 value, then bring in a 3x premiership winger with probably 30ish decent games left in him for free to support and cover mostly just for 2021 while Clark plays a bit, hits the gym a bit then maybe that makes sense as a strategy.

It's the only context in which the Smith signing makes any sense to me.

 

[apuchar]

And really how would Geelong fit Fyfe under their salary cap?

We seem to hear all these little stories about $1 pubs and land developers chipping in to 'pad' things up in the background but seriously if Geelong traded in Fyfe everyone would be saying WTF, how can they afford another star on big coin.

Anyway, the fashion industry and catwalks in Geelong aren't big enough for Fyfe.

Plenty of Hungry Jack's stores for you blokes though.

 

[apuchar]

This thread got really pissy really quickly

One aspect to consider here is everyone is looking at Smith coming in and saying Clark is out. No one is looking at Menegola. Don't get me wrong I'd take Menegola over Smith at this point but also consider he was a mature ager who has never had big contract and likely won't get one that reflects his value at the cats. He also has probably 4 years left in him.

If your choice is to keep Menegola on a contract that is below what he could get elsewhere after his late start, then potentiality lose Clark for opportunity at other clubs then it's probably not ideal for any party involved.

If your choice is instead to let Menegola go to a club where he gets paid in a manner reflecting his 2020 value, then bring in a 3x premiership winger with probably 30ish decent games left in him for free to support and cover mostly just for 2021 while Clark plays a bit, hits the gym a bit then maybe that makes sense as a strategy.

It's the only context in which the Smith signing makes any sense to me.

I agree. That seems more logical. Especially as Menegola has pretty much said he is open to offers next year.

 

[Shadow89]

Mitch Cleary (main Geelong AFL reporter source) just stated that Clark has knocked back offers from WA sides and is 'expected to stay'

"Contracted midfielder Charlie Constable

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Charlie Constable

Age

24

Ht

192cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

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21.4

5star

K

9.0

3star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

3.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

22.4

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

is assessing his options at rival clubs, however Jordan Clark

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Jordan Clark

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

(contracted to 2022) is expected to stay despite interest from WA clubs."

/Close thread

 

[STPer18]

The kid has had a busted shoulder/arm for much of the Covid-interrupted year. People thinking he wants out because they didn't see him playing AFL every week aren't taking that into account.

 

[catman2006]

In that case it’s Menegola and pick 33 for Fyfe

 

[mike91]

Should be a fairly obvious decision to stay. Club is in contention for a flag, he can learn an enormous amount from Higgins and Smith. He'd be somewhat stupid to leave. Give it 1 more season, see how he goes, if he can't break into the team, then consider leaving, until then work hard and earn a spot.

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[Chocoholic]

Can we close this now, he is confirmed staying and thats it.

 

[Chocoholic]

Should be a fairly obvious decision to stay. Club is in contention for a flag, he can learn an enormous amount from Higgins and Smith. He'd be somewhat stupid to leave. Give it 1 more season, see how he goes, if he can't break into the team, then consider leaving, until then work hard and earn a spot.

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100%

 

[Wizard]

Can we close this now, he is confirmed staying and thats it.

Has he? I just read "expected to stay".

 

[Obeanie1]

Plenty of Hungry Jack's stores for you blokes though.

Did they pay $1 for them