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[Davo23]

Sounds more like a well publicised result/statistic than a 'highlight reel'!

Also kinda means that we've discounted the 128 other games he played for north, where his highlights were, well... dimly lit.

The Hale Storm was just an awkward looking beast! Very effective, but awkward-lookin'

I used to think the Halester looked like the bloke on his first day at the gym, wearing badly fitting non-gym clothes, and looking completely out of place.

But he then lifts 125 kgs !

 

[flinchfree]

I think it's a bit like why midfielders win Brownlows. They are always around the ball, constantly getting it, constantly developing.

Those playing forward and back have to develop off 50-75% less ball. This has a knock on effect to confidence as well.
It adds up I reckon.
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Fair point re Brownlow votes and mids, however unrelated as I see it playing out in development of players.
Game day is the expression of all the development you do in training, week in week out and over summer. All the players on our list get exposed to near identical drills and coaching (and those at Richmond not very differently), with small specialisation at the periphery. It exposes those who can find the time in game to see past all the motion, all the sound, desperation and collisions, to execute the skills and game plan they work on so assiduously during the week.
Those who struggle game day, it's not that they haven't developed, its just that you can't accurately simulate fully and over any length of time in practice the speed of game day competition between two desperately motivated teams. Good/Very good and better players adapt, see through the hubbub, and can choose an option that helps their team mates best. They don't develop that, they discover it within themselves and tap in to it in the moment.
Average to lower players always struggle as the tempo rises.
Some just never get there.

We are around a lot of elite coaches here in the USA for my kid's soccer pursuit, including national team coaches....small brag here, but my son made the top 45 US futsal players at his age group last year and this year had a chance to make a national squad if not for a broken leg.

You find and pay the best coaches and teams for what they do with your kid Mon-Fri in training, and everyone including keepers get similar development in that time. You don't pay for wins on the weekends, too much can factor in for that to be a determinant. You want to see improvement in game play that is a reflection of the work they do in practice.
However when you lace them up, something special happens for certain players that just doesn't for others.
Same development opportunity, but a different ability to express it when the pressure and need is highest.
Yes I like to get my son extra touches on the ball outside of all he already does, hoping for a small edge. Truth is, he just missed 2 months with a broken leg and was only able to play for 6 weeks out of the last 6 months because of the leg and a newly diagnosed chronic illness.
The second he stepped back on the field, his class and ability just stood out again even though he had missed so much 'development' time that his other team mates had benefited from. He could do things others couldn't, not a specific skill - but in execution of all the skills, an ability to make the game flow through him that kept others in stride and the team cohesive. So many other really good technical kids on our team just kill the tempo with their choices of when to move the ball on and when to be creative or 'selfish' in a way that benefits the team through fashioning opportunities where none previously exist.

Vickery has had every chance to be great, he's had plenty of development.
Either he has never quite been driven enough to be all in and find his absolute best on a regular basis, or his ceiling is just what it is.
That's why it's a great punt by us. We've seen his best, know he's developed enough to be a difference maker on our team, and believe we can find a way to have him play closer to that level more often.
So different to a JOR - for mine - who's highlights and game play have never shown elite ability, but who we decided had just not had enough development to see what he might become. Personally don't think he can be better than a poor man Shiels, and for that would have much preferred a punt with the relevant draft pick on a young player who had more dazzle.

 

[grumbleguts]

Scarlett...7 goals..yada yada

Nope Hale has never kicked 7 goals let alone 7 against Scarlett. He did however kick a bag of 8 against him.

http://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2008/091220080824.html

 

[Dipper]

Nope Hale has never kicked 7 goals let alone 7 against Scarlett. He did however kick a bag of 8 against him.

http://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2008/091220080824.html

Not true just before he kicked the 8th he'd kicked 7.

 

[Gralin]

Not true just before he kicked the 8th he'd kicked 7.

 

[grumbleguts]

Not true just before he kicked the 8th he'd kicked 7.

I considered that when I typed it, but thought, only the utterly irretrievably pedantic will worry about it, and they're probably so far down on friends it won't matter.

 

[Dipper]

I considered that when I typed it, but thought, only the utterly irretrievably pedantic will worry about it, and they're probably so far down on friends it won't matter.

I think you've just described yourself there haven't you.

 

[threesixpio]

Why is ten afraid of seven?

 

[EIGHTYEIGHTEIGHTYNINE]

Why is ten afraid of seven?

Because seven ate nine?

 

[Gunstall555]

I considered that when I typed it, but thought, only the utterly irretrievably pedantic will worry about it, and they're probably so far down on friends it won't matter.

Postulate: A Hale has 8 goals, Proof: No Hale has 7 goals, One Hale kicked one more goal than 7 goals. One Hale has 8 goals.

 

[Thaihawk]

Postulate: A Hale has 8 goals, Proof: No Hale has 7 goals, One Hale kicked one more goal than 7 goals. One Hale has 8 goals.

Don't get me started.

 

[Dewnior]

Why is ten afraid of seven?

Because six eight nine?

 

[threesixpio]

How many kittens can be shoved into TV's bag? I say one more than seven

 

[BigLittleHawk]

Because seven ate nine?

Why is everyone scared of 10?

Because it's in between 9 11

 

[Brant]

Why is Hawthorn scared to hand out #1 but happily (repeatedly) hand out #36?

 

[illnino]

Why is Hawthorn scared to hand out #1 but happily (repeatedly) hand out #36?

So long as they don't decide to dedicate #36 to the fans instead of #1. I already get enough bad luck as it is!

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

We know the drill. he'll just be instructed to 'do his role', and he'll be drilled in it...

Bearing in mind who we are and who they are...does anyone doubt that he won't be better for us than he was at Richmond?

Richmond supporters have their fingers and toes crossed.

 

[HawksILove]

Richmond Supporters think that Vickery is very lazy to do the hard work, I hope he proves them wrong

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Richmond Supporters think that Vickery is very lazy to do the hard work, I hope he proves them wrong

In today's game I don't know how yu get away with being like that.

Surely the coaches will be telling him to work harder or getting him to do extra sessions as make up until he trains at the required level?

 

[Steven Tyler]

I'm sure Clarko and co will just turn a blind eye if they think Vickery, or anyone else, isn't putting in as he should

 

[Randy Campbell]

Has he been purged yet?

 

[crazywildhorse]

I feel this move will reveal to us (and the greater football community) if the problem at Richmond is Hardwick or if they are still a very poorly run club in general. I hope it's the latter.

 

[Davo23]

I'm sure Clarko and co will just turn a blind eye if they think Vickery, or anyone else, isn't putting in as he should

Clarko's just a softy.

He'll let Ty off all the hard work so he can look after his cats.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Richmond Supporters think that Vickery is very lazy to do the hard work, I hope he proves them wrong

Richmond supporters think that the only way is up.

 

[MoustachioNuts]

I considered that when I typed it, but thought, only the utterly irretrievably* pedantic will worry about it, and they're probably so far down on friends it won't matter.

*irredeemably.