Traded Adam Cerra traded to Carlton for pick #6 and F3

If he leaves (as widely reported), what will Freo get in return?

  • Two good 1st round picks

  • Top 10 pick and change

  • A 1st & a 2nd

  • Later 1st rounder

  • Two 2nd rounders

  • Early 2nd rounder

  • Other 2nd round pick

  • Less than a 2nd rounder


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Money may be a factor, but Cerra doesn't strike me was the type who would want to screw Freo over.

If he wants to join North, he would ensure trade would be done.

I actually think Essendon are lurking behind the scenes quietly, the media is talking about its down to Carlton or Richmond, the Dons have the cap space, list demographic and draft pick(s) to get a deal done with Fremantle.

He probably fits in Essendon and where their current list is projecting the best imo.
I really like Cerra but we have multiple holes in our list that need to be addressed. We are still a genuine chance to finish bottom 4 so would rather we hit the draft and in fact we need to somehow get a second rounder in.
 
Cerra plus a future 2nd for Bolton would get the job done wouldnt it.

Maybe a future 3rd go back to Freo?

I don't want Bolton.

Think about it, like every high profile Freo recruit he will be followed by the WA press (especially channel 7), he already screwed up in that night club incident and on top of that there will be outside influence here in WA which never helps.

It's a recipe for disaster. We'll continue to go to the draft and pick up a few cheaper low profile recruits eg; Aish, Acres, Wilson etc.

The days of picking up the great hopes eg; Hogan, McCarthy, Bennell are over for us..and I'm pretty sure Eagle's selling the farm for Kelly has got Eagles second guessing.
 

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I don't want Bolton.

Think about it, like every high profile Freo recruit he will be followed by the WA press (especially channel 7), he already screwed up in that night club incident and on top of that there will be outside influence here in WA which never helps.

It's a recipe for disaster. We'll continue to go to the draft and pick up a few cheaper low profile recruits eg; Aish, Acres, Wilson etc.

The days of picking up the great hopes eg; Hogan, McCarthy, Bennell are over for us..and I'm pretty sure Eagle's selling the farm for Kelly has got Eagles second guessing.
Harsh on Bolton. Can't recall him ever getting into trouble in his 5 years at the club other than belting a bloke that touched up his best mates Mrs.

It's not like he's on video chewing his face off with his pants down....or fighting bikies.....or with known mental health issues combined with epilepsy.

Hes of good character. A bit different, but good character.
 
Harsh on Bolton. Can't recall him ever getting into trouble in his 5 years at the club other than belting a bloke that touched up his best mates Mrs.

It's not like he's on video chewing his face off with his pants down....or fighting bikies.....or with known mental health issues combined with epilepsy.

Hes of good character. A bit different, but good character.

Sorry mate but channel 7 here in WA is evil. Big reason why Yarran committed suicide. Followed Farmer in the 2000s to casino, pubs waiting for a slip up. Absolute relentless. For our sake and any big name like Bolton's well being don't come here.
 
Sorry mate but channel 7 here in WA is evil. Big reason why Yarran committed suicide. Followed Farmer in the 2000s to casino, pubs waiting for a slip up. Absolute relentless. For our sake and any big name like Bolton's well being don't come here.
Interesting. Thats only a problem if you're doing the wrong thing though, surely?

Different if it was Sydney Stack. The day he moves back home is the day his career ends IMO.

Not all aboriginals are going to have the same issues....
 
Be interesting who he chooses

Im a big fan of his more so than most easendon fans are and concerns over the cost he will involve in trade. I cant see freo knocking back pick 6 for example for him. Well i can at the start but than they'll be the ones blinking first.

Carlton, Richmond, Hawks, Dons, North can all fit him in the cap and it seems money isnt an issue according to reports ans the 750k a year offered by his current club. I hope we arent offering him that much per year.

Still not sure hes going to be the main guy type mid. He seems to lack a turn of foot and a real hard edge in his game. His kicking and decision making is elite. Is he ever going to be an true inside mid or a par time inside mid.

Its good to see freo playing him inside the past few weeks. Either showing clubs what he can do inside and raise his worth or he enjoys the inaide time and keeps with freo for another 2 on the big $$

Id be prepared to turn away if the offer becomes too steep, i hope the club is aswell, if nominated. 3.2 mill over 5 years, our future first would be my best offer and id walk otherwise

His next 7 weeks could be very important in altering my opinion.
 
Sorry mate but channel 7 here in WA is evil. Big reason why Yarran committed suicide. Followed Farmer in the 2000s to casino, pubs waiting for a slip up. Absolute relentless. For our sake and any big name like Bolton's well being don't come here.
Wait, what happened to Chris Yarren?
 
Cerra plus a future 2nd for Bolton would get the job done wouldnt it.

Maybe a future 3rd go back to Freo?

The truth is, any trade proposal that involves and Cerra and Bolton will be hated by both clubs supporters which probably means its close to fair haha

We would hate to lose Bolton but you'd have to think if this happens it involves Cerra and something.
 

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The truth is, any trade proposal that involves and Cerra and Bolton will be hated by both clubs supporters which probably means its close to fair haha

We would hate to lose Bolton but you'd have to think if this happens it involves Cerra and something.

I think you are right.

The issue i have with us doing a Bolton for Cerra trade is that the long term value is wrong when you look at the inevitable outcomes.

Cerra at Richmond projects upwards.
Bolton at Freo projects downwards.
 
I think you are right.

The issue i have with us doing a Bolton for Cerra trade is that the long term value is wrong when you look at the inevitable outcomes.

Cerra at Richmond projects upwards.
Bolton at Freo projects downwards.

Yep, also known as the "Des Headland Effect". Unless you are an out and out superstar (i.e. Buddy), stuff doesn't always go right going from a complimentary piece in a premiership dynasty team to a player expected to star in a middle of the road team.
 
I think you are right.

The issue i have with us doing a Bolton for Cerra trade is that the long term value is wrong when you look at the inevitable outcomes.

Cerra at Richmond projects upwards.
Bolton at Freo projects downwards.

I dont agree but without a crystal ball, who knows.

Cerra I believe will get better, that we agree on. I also believe at only 22 and with more responsibility, Bolton goes to another level. Its no suprise that since all our more senior players have returned, he has been demoted to a lesser mid role and his form has tapered off. His best games and form have been when he is our no1 or no2 mid.
 
I dont agree but without a crystal ball, who knows.

Cerra I believe will get better, that we agree on. I also believe at only 22 and with more responsibility, Bolton goes to another level. Its no suprise that since all our more senior players have returned, he has been demoted to a lesser mid role and his form has tapered off. His best games and form have been when he is our no1 or no2 mid.

He’s tiny though. He projects to me like Stephen Hill, absolutely blitz’s a few years then gets battered and bruised from too much inside work. I think Cerra will have more longevity in the game. He’s very slick with the ball and doesn’t require the crash or bash (Fyfe), he’s got enough size that he won’t get hurt either from playing inside / outside role. I think Bolton is brave, maybe too brave. <180cm <80kg are not meant to be clearance kings.

Personally I’d prefer to keep Cerra than get Bolton.
 
He’s tiny though. He projects to me like Stephen Hill, absolutely blitz’s a few years then gets battered and bruised from too much inside work. I think Cerra will have more longevity in the game. He’s very slick with the ball and doesn’t require the crash or bash (Fyfe), he’s got enough size that he won’t get hurt either from playing inside / outside role. I think Bolton is brave, maybe too brave. <180cm <80kg are not meant to be clearance kings.

Personally I’d prefer to keep Cerra than get Bolton.

Bolton doesnt win his clearances with bash and crash though, even his contested ball is usually won through insane agility and explosive speed.

I'd also rather keep what we have than get Cerra.

Cerra will be a 200+ gamer who you can rely on every week to perform at a very good level IMO

Bolton wont be as consistent, but will excite and win you games off his own boot.

Both types are needed to be successful.
 
I think Gold Coast being stupid enough to give them pick 2 for Weller has given Dockers fans unrealistic expectations about what they can get for an uncontracted player who requests a trade.

If you look at it this way, if it came down to it and the Dockers didn't accept pick 8 (should we have it), Richmond could walk Cerra through the national draft to pick 8. No club is going to use a top 10 pick on a player who doesn't want to play for them.

We could've done the same with Prestia when he requested a trade from the Suns. Hence, why the Suns couldn't do any better than our pick 6 (they didn't even really get that as we got a pick upgrade back our way).
If I was Cerra and Richmond told me that was their strategy I would immediately open discussions with other clubs who can get a deal done. I certainly wouldn't be feeling valued and respected by being put in a situation with an unknown outcome.
 
Be interesting who he chooses

Im a big fan of his more so than most easendon fans are and concerns over the cost he will involve in trade. I cant see freo knocking back pick 6 for example for him. Well i can at the start but than they'll be the ones blinking first.
So we got him with pick 5, put 60 or so games onto him and develop him and then trade him for pick 6, one pick worse???? I know sometimes our trading has been poor in the past but thats not going to happen.
 
So we got him with pick 5, put 60 or so games onto him and develop him and then trade him for pick 6, one pick worse???? I know sometimes our trading has been poor in the past but thats not going to happen.
All matters in terms of where recruiters see this years draft, if it was like the 2018 draft I'd absolutely say pick 6 would be worth it. I may not be the best person to judge as I don't watch every Freo game and seemingly all his best games are the ones I skip, but I still feel like theres a bit lacking with Cerra. He is a very nice player don't get me wrong but he just doesn't stand out as much as the likes of Brayshaw or Bailey Smith types. They just seem to will themselves to more contests and have a bit more fire in the belly.

All the wraps are that he will end up an absolute star so perhaps I'm wrong but I see him ending up as more of a to A- grade player. Similar to a Mitch Duncan type when compared to Danger and Selwood. Is that still a gun? Yeah absolutely but he certainly won't be changing the fortunes of the club he ends up at and rocketing them into contention. Hoping I'm wrong and he comes out like a house on fire next year but to me he just doesn't look like he has that edge all the superstars of the competition have.
 
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