Free Agency Brad Crouch [joins St Kilda as a RFA for pick 23]

[marty36]

Correct they can't match till Free Agency opens.

Why it is important is that Crouch is going to tell them his offers and Adelaide will have the option to sign him to a similar agreement? He is happy for them to match - that is his preference so he can stay.

If they decide to agree to his terms, its all over this week and he stays at Adelaide. That part is pretty simple. Its pointless going through the whole process if the intention is for him stay so it will get resolved quickly.

In the event they don't agree to terms on his contract, its very, very dangerous for them to match a RFA offer. As if he signs and offer sheet and the Crows match, he then has the option of staying at the Crows on a deal set out in the offer sheet or seeking trade/draft. The point being, its his call. Hence, by matching and with his preference being to stay, they are effectively agreeing to what ever is on his offer sheet. Its not necessarily going to get them more compensation, it will help them retain a player. The system was designed to retain players NOT get more compensation and it works well in this situation.

By it not being resolved quickly, they aren't going to match as its too risky they get Crouch for the next five years IF its true he doesn't want to leave and they want him gone.

WE didnt match on Danger either remember

 

[marty36]

I don't think that's what Wayne was getting at

HE Posted on the Adelaide board that

 

[marty36]

Just as simple as if you get compensation it’s not pick 2 if he is to go to GFC under free agency
If it’s a trade it’s nothing
I’m not even sure he’ll come to Geelong anymore lol

So the bet is too clarify for the last time

If he is leaving adelaide

My Opinion is

He will be going as a RFA and we will be compensated with band 1

Your Opinion is

He will be going as a RFA and compensation will be band 2

Any other outcomes re trade is null and void

What is the wager?

Im happy to take deleting accounts

 

[Pure_Ownage]

LIke Dangerfield

How many god damn times was I told there would be no trade

And people have explained to you many times why the circumstances are different in this case but you are choosing not to listen.

 

[calder_daddy]

So the bet is too clarify for the last time

If he is leaving adelaide

My Opinion is

He will be going as a RFA and we will be compensated with band 1

Your Opinion is

He will be going as a RFA and compensation will be band 2

Any other outcomes re trade is null and void

What is the wager?

Im happy to take deleting accounts

If you going to pick and chose what people actually quote you in saying vs what you want to ignore than don’t worry about it.
Never change mate

 

[ibuprofen]

WE didnt match on Danger either remember

Correct but Dangerfield wanted to take a pay cut to come. Crouch wants to stay in Adelaide. Difference is Crouch is happy for you to match, Dangerfield wasn't.

The whole thing is that by matching you make it his choice, and he has clearly stated he'd prefer to remain in Adelaide even if playing for Port. You then get him on a contract you don't want.

Geelong don't even get the option to trade for him if he decides that he is happy to stay.

 

[marty36]

And people have explained to you many times why the circumstances are different in this case but you are choosing not to listen.

I guess time will tell and prove me right once again

 

[marty36]

Correct but Dangerfield wanted to take a pay cut to come. Crouch wants to stay in Adelaide. Difference is Crouch is happy for you to match, Dangerfield wasn't.

The whole thing is that by matching you make it his choice, and he has clearly stated he'd prefer to remain in Adelaide even if playing for Port. You then get him on a contract you don't want.

Geelong don't even get the option to trade for him if he decides that he is happy to stay.

Pay Cut?????

He was only being paid $500k at adelaide did he play for Geelong for less than that

Adelaide obviously threatened to match what ever Geelong had on offer, Do you seriously think Adelaide wont do this again to get what they want for Crouch in terms of forcing him into band 1 territory

Geelong may say bad luck stay, if Adelaide dont get what they want he can stay as far as most Crows supporters are concerned

His Manager is clearly pushing for the biggest payday he can get, but why would he

 

[Rob R]

Zac Williams ring any bells?

yep, that guy from GWS who is a better player than Crouch and going to a desparate club in Carlton rather than a disciplined club like Geelong

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[Pure_Ownage]

I guess time will tell and prove me right once again

I guess it won't but you're entitled to an opinion.

 

[Thetrader15]

yep, that guy from GWS who is a better player than Crouch and going to a desparate club in Carlton rather than a disciplined club like Geelong

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"Better player" - that's up for grabs, let's see how that plays out next year.

But yes, the Zac Williams who is a good but not super player and getting north of $850k.

He wont get band 1, no club will pay that much in the current environment for a good not super player.

 

[bird_man]

Contract size just dropped

 

[Crow till I die]

Club statement

Adelaide is investigating an incident involving two of its players

www.afc.com.au

Every chance Brad has just announced to the footy world he is staying in Adelaide - not by what he said but by his actions. Who is going to give him his big payday now

 

[TryAnHit]

Love when they say pay cuts to Geelong.
Bitch please hes on so much under the table down there

 

[Soups]

OP is fitting

 

[Thetrader15]

Yeah but does Zac Williams go off on illicit substance binges with a teammate?

I don't know, do you?

 

[FairKouta]

Oh nooooooo

 

[ibuprofen]

Pay Cut?????

He was only being paid $500k at adelaide did he play for Geelong for less than that

Adelaide obviously threatened to match what ever Geelong had on offer, Do you seriously think Adelaide wont do this again to get what they want for Crouch in terms of forcing him into band 1 territory

Geelong may say bad luck stay, if Adelaide dont get what they want he can stay as far as most Crows supporters are concerned

His Manager is clearly pushing for the biggest payday he can get, but why would he

Yeh Marty, the bloke took less to come to Geelong than Adelaide's offer.

Dangerfield was worth what ever is thrown at him. It was reported Melbourne threw $1.6 m a year at him. So its feasible to match any offer thrown at him when you know Geelong are offering less than you are.

Now, Crouch. The difference again you confuse Dangerfield with Crouch. Crouch isn't worth any offer. Dangerfield really was. So its ridiculous you'd match any offer.

You then don't get it, IF you match Crouch, its Crouch who decides not Geelong. You then become liable for a contract you're currently not prepared to offer. Geelong can say whatever its out of their control. Geelong don't get Crouch and you get a long term deal with a guy you really don't want.

Crouch can drive this whole process and has said he would rather stay in Adelaide. Its pretty simple, there is a massive chance that if you match the contract he chooses to stay. His manager won't care either way as its the same at Geelong or Adelaide if you match.

You really need to learn the system Marty. Its worth matching Tier 1 players not blokes that aren't top 10 in a wooden spooner's B & F.

 

[FyfeToAdelaide]

Yeh Marty, the bloke took less to come to Geelong than Adelaide's offer.

Dangerfield was worth what ever is thrown at him. It was reported Melbourne threw $1.6 m a year at him. So its feasible to match any offer thrown at him when you know Geelong are offering less than you are.

Now, Crouch. The difference again you confuse Dangerfield with Crouch. Crouch isn't worth any offer. Dangerfield really was. So its ridiculous you'd match any offer.

You then don't get it, IF you match Crouch, its Crouch who decides not Geelong. You then become liable for a contract you're currently not prepared to offer. Geelong can say whatever its out of their control. Geelong don't get Crouch and you get a long term deal with a guy you really don't want.

Crouch can drive this whole process and has said he would rather stay in Adelaide. Its pretty simple, there is a massive chance that if you match the contract he chooses to stay. His manager won't care either way as its the same at Geelong or Adelaide if you match.

You really need to learn the system Marty. Its worth matching Tier 1 players not blokes that aren't top 10 in a wooden spooner's B & F.

They're not going to match 'any offer' they'll prolly match offers that wouldn't net them pick 2 in compensation though.

 

[ibuprofen]

They're not going to match 'any offer' they'll prolly match offers that wouldn't net them pick 2 in compensation though.

Not what Marty said.

The point still is Crouch picks, you don't so why not just offer him his contract before RFA if you are going to keep him.

 

[Jen2310]

Rival clubs before September 28th, 2020-- "Come to me Brad."

Rival clubs today:..... Nevermind. Stay where you are..

 

[FyfeToAdelaide]

Not what Marty said.

The point still is Crouch picks, you don't so why not just offer him his contract before RFA if you are going to keep him.

Because, if their order of preference is p2>brouch>p20 then why offer themselves out of p2?

 

[ibuprofen]

Will Adelaide now not renew his contract and sack his mate?

Guess there is no chance of band 1 now.

 

[year of the cat]

In the immortal words of Shakespeare, "Where for out thou Marty?"

 

[ibuprofen]

Because, if their order of preference is p2>brouch>p20 then why offer themselves out of p2?

Because Mate you aren't going to get pick 2 even before today's issues.

No one is giving him 750k a year.

Hence, you might as well just sign him today to what he wants.