Just goes to show how low the bar is these days, that surprisingly competent performances against poor opposition are treated with the reverence of Da Vinci painting the Sistine Chapel.A couple of wins against mediocre teams hit by injuries really reinvigorates the happy clappers. They just don't get that those of us calling for Hinkley to be gone don't base that opinion on the results from one or two games or the selection or non-selection of an individual player.
Not be too pedantic but Michaelangelo is credited for painting the Sistine Chapel or are you missing an "or" in there somewhere .Just goes to show how low the bar is these days, that surprisingly competent performances against poor opposition are treated with the reverence of Da Vinci painting the Sistine Chapel.
In all fairness, Ken is never going to play Trengove & Mayes. They know this, so much of what you see is personal pride.Adelaide haven’t won since 1998 (21 years).
Brisbane haven't won since 2003 (16 years) and have been bottom four for the past eight seasons.
Carlton haven't won since 1995 (24 years).
Collingwood wins once every 20 years (1990-2010).
Essendon haven't won since 2000 (19 years).
Fremantle have never won in their 24 years history.
Geelong haven’t won since 2011 (8 years). Before their period of dominance between 2007-2011, their last flag was in 1963 (44 years).
Gold Coast has never won a flag in 9 years.
GWS hasn't won a flag in 8 years. It's an indictment that they haven't even made a GF with their list during that period.
Hawthorn went 17 years without a flag (1991-2008), then waited 5 years before their period of dominance from 2013-2015.
Melbourne hasn't won the flag since 1964 (55 years).
North Melbourne hasn't won the flag in 20 years.
Richmond won in 2017, but before that won in 1980 (37 years).
St Kilda hasn't won a flag since 1966 (53 years).
Sydney has won the flag every 7 years (2005-2012), but before that, they hadn't won a flag since 1933 (72 years).
West Coast wins it every 12 years (1994-2006-2018). This is probably the gold standard.
Western Bulldogs won in 2016, but before that hadn't won a flag since 1954 (62 years).
The question is - do you think all these teams didn't have gun players that their supporters believed should have delivered them a flag? Of course they did. A lot of these teams made grand finals that they were on the wrong end of. Comparing us to teams that have a group of generational talent (Hawthorn and Geelong) is silly because it's an unfair comparison - they had priority picks and father/son selections that augmented their list. Even comparing us to what Brisbane is now is foolish, because the Lions list is based on finishing bottom four for a long time.
Every team has talented players. Winning a flag is about how connected the team is to the goal, and what is most important to them. It's about having the depth necessary to fill in the gaps of injury and still win games of football that other teams would lose (like Richmond vs Port this year). It's about 45 players being committed to winning the flag, not just the best 22. And that requires discipline and the right mental attitude.
Ask yourself if Polec was playing for the team or himself last year?
Was Wingard sulking because we let his friend Trengove go?
Were guys like Ah Chee prepared to do what it took to make sure the team was successful and accept that they weren't going to get much game time over better players unless injured, and back themselves in, or did they spit the dummy and go elsewhere?
Did Lobbe accept that he shouldn't have been playing over Ryder because he's rubbish and he needed to work on his game, or was he resentful that he was playing in the reserves as backup?
Compare the attitude to guys who are going back to the Magpies this year as opposed to previous seasons. They aren't sulking or playing for themselves to rack up stats - they are playing their role and getting on with the job.
Motlop had 5 goals, but he also had 4 tackles on the weekend.
Drew had 38 disposals and 6 tackles.
Trengove had 33 disposals and 15 tackles.
Mayes had 22 disposals and 7 tackles.
Lycett had 30 disposals and 6 tackles.
Howard kicked 3 goals and had 4 tackles.
These are the types of performances of a future top two team. Working both sides of the ball. Playing like actual AFL players in the SANFL, rather than SANFL players hoping for a call up to the AFL so they can prove their real talent. Even guys like Mayes and McKenzie have suddenly twigged that it's not how many disposals you rack up that will get you in the frame for AFL selection, but how conscious you are of helping out the team.
It's been 15 years since we won a flag. Winning this year or next year would have us lagging three/four years behind West Coast and give us a better strike rate than pretty much any team other than the Eagles in the competition (augmented teams like Brisbane (got Fitzroy concessions), Geelong (F/S with Ablett and Hawkins) and Hawthorn (priority picks) don't count). It's not too hard to be good, it just takes time.
Damien Hardwick said it best on AFL360 last night: "When we get together as premiership players, we don't even talk about winning the flag. We talk about the journey it took to get there. That's the part that is enjoyable."
That guys posts on facebook are almost as annoying as when the middle aged women post their photos in Port gear with some dumb comment.This was posted by well known supporter it shows how gullible some of our supporters are. Please don’t blame the please don’t blame ken but we love being struggle street
”August 9 at 5:27 AM
Don't you just love it when key-board warriors come on here, other pages and sites to have a go at someone, but are afraid to say it to their faces. Last night Keith Thomas was on Talking Footy (yes, i posted the event on here) to answer questions from members and supporters who attended.
I bet most of those who are having a sook/gripe/whinge/whine about KT didn't attend on the night. That's a shame, because this was your chance to say what you really thought of him and what he should or shouldn't do at the club. I say, STFU and say what you feel through the right channels.
That's me in the photo with Keith Thomas. I support everything he does at our club and he can only do what he thinks is best for our club. Some may have forgotten what he's done from 2011 till today. This man helped pull us out of a s**tty mud pit and helped make us a better club.
To all those who hang around in 2011 when we only had around 16,000 or so attending games at Footy Park and are still on today, i say, THANK YOU. We are Port Adelaide and don't you forget that.”
That guys posts on facebook are almost as annoying as when the middle aged women post their photos in Port gear with some dumb comment.
Literally the only reason to stay in those various port groups on facebook is to get a laugh every now and then when you're bored.
I might leave the Ken Oath group lol, the guy running it hiding behind a fake account, posted a photo of his ugly freckled legs while on holiday. What the fu**, nobody wants to see that s**t. I think you were accused of making a fake account to join the group though, which is ironic that they complain about that when the guy running the group is using a fake account. Your name came up because the name of the fake account was a swear word in Greek..ta arixidia or something. Now, you'd think that it would be obvious that the language is called Greek..but that imbecile wrote in the Greece.
Just goes to show how low the bar is these days, that surprisingly competent performances against poor opposition are treated with the reverence of Da Vinci painting the Sistine Chapel.