Recommitted Brad Crouch [RFA 2020]

[Barunga Bullet]

would be an epic blindside!

we may or may not have an update on this on tonights podcast!

There's better be some updates tonight haha we are all getting pretty antsy

 

[Young Gun #6]

Big Call, wasn't Jack Watts the next Wayne Carey at one moment in time

Top 5 midfielders hit on being above average players a lot more than bigs or smalls.

 

[marty36]

Top 5 midfielders hit on being above average players a lot more than bigs or smalls.

Not disputing above average, but Joel Selwood is elite

I don't think Fyfe Danger or T Mitchell were rated top 5 in their draft years

Just saying everythings unproven

 

[Lore]

AFL Website compares him to Lachie Neale, and values him at around pick 15+20.

Brad Crouch (Adelaide to Gold Coast)
The prolific ball winner is potentially on his way to Queensland, where he would become a first-tier onballer at his new club. It's very similar to the situation involving Lachie Neale last year. The trade taking Neale to Brisbane was quite complicated. The Lions gave up picks No.6, No.19 and No.55 to snare Neale, while also getting back pick No.30. However, the value came in the dual top-20 picks. The Suns have draft selections to burn thanks to the generous assistance package delivered to them by the AFL on Monday. While picks No.1 and No.2 are off the table, could they entice the Crows to deal Crouch with picks No.15 and No.20? More might need to be added to ensure any potential trade gets over the line.

Trade comparisons: What are the top targets worth?

A historical comparison of what the top seven trade targets might be worth on the open market

www.afl.com.au

 

[THE_GUN]

AFL Website compares him to Lachie Neale, and values him at around pick 15+20.

Trade comparisons: What are the top targets worth?

A historical comparison of what the top seven trade targets might be worth on the open market

www.afl.com.au

Looks like i was generous i thought pick #10-#15 range

 

[Peel67skin]

Looks like i was generous i thought pick #10-#15 range

Nah happy for the whole squad another camp trip to GC, all paid.

 

[DrLucienSanchez]

1/2/Lukosius for the 2 Crouch brothers, Greenwood, 4 and 23.

Would you do it, and if you were Adelaide, what becomes a suitable offer for Grundy as a pre-agent, considering their lack of picks and now you've gutted your midfield, would you take a punt on Grundy a year early than necessary?

 

[bird_man]

1/2/Lukosius for the 2 Crouch brothers, Greenwood, 4 and 23.

Would you do it, and if you were Adelaide, what becomes a suitable offer for Grundy as a pre-agent, considering their lack of picks and now you've gutted your midfield, would you take a punt on Grundy a year early than necessary?

Of course the Crows would do it

No way in the world would GC do it though.

 

[ADL9798]

Looks like i was generous i thought pick #10-#15 range

The article suggests 2x first round picks, so no.

 

[DrLucienSanchez]

If you thought you had a chance of Lukosius staying, it'd be a definite no.

If he's two and done, I reckon they'd panic trade knowing there's probably significantly less on offer next year.

 

[JUSTWORK]

The article suggests 2x first round picks, so no.

Neither of the Crouch brothers are worth two first Round picks individually.

 

[SumTingWong]

Has he picked Richmond yet?

 

[ADL9798]

Neither of the Crouch brothers are worth two first Round picks individually.

The point of reference in the article was the Lachie Neale trade.

Pick 6, 19 and 55 for Neale and pick 30.

Values Neale at 2,277 or approximately pick 3.

 

[THE_GUN]

Has he picked Richmond yet?

Hope not We cannot afford another $1 million dollar player


unless ...................... Puma

 

[bird_man]

Adelaide can rule picks 1 and 2 out. Unless it's a deal that is ridiculously lop sided on GC's side it won't happen.

Think Lukosius is much more likely, although only if they genuinely think he's gone next year.

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Both Crouch's, Greenwood, 4 for Rankine/Lukosious and a 2nd rounder back.

 

[Ash1337]

Crouch for pick their pick 11 next year and pick 20. Considering pick 20 is highly desirable for every team on day 2 of draft. It gives Adelaide the box seat to trade for something good at draft time.

 

[Bring back Bas]

Both Crouch's, Greenwood, 4 for Rankine/Lukosious and a 2nd rounder back.

Not a chance from an Adelaide perspective.

 

[ADL9798]

Round 20 – the “survival function” of AFL draftees, and Port’s makeshift ruck

Today we’re going show a simple “survival function” analysis, inspired by a query from Soccermetrics on Twitter who ran a similar analysis of MLS draft pick career tenures. Surviv…

www.hpnfooty.com

Survival curve of every non-current player drafted from 1996 to 2016. Worth a quick read.

45% of top 10 picks, and over 70% of players taken with picks 10-20, don’t make it past 100 games. It’d be a brave man who bets against both Crouch boys hitting 150 games. Using this as the benchmark, the odds of success for a given draftee drop again.

This should be (although going by this thread, frequently isn’t) considered when assessing the relative value of draft picks or recent draftees against established players.

 

[Lore]

Round 20 – the “survival function” of AFL draftees, and Port’s makeshift ruck

Today we’re going show a simple “survival function” analysis, inspired by a query from Soccermetrics on Twitter who ran a similar analysis of MLS draft pick career tenures. Surviv…

www.hpnfooty.com

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Survival curve of every non-current player drafted from 1996 to 2016. Worth a quick read.

45% of top 10 picks, and over 70% of players taken with picks 10-20, don’t make it past 100 games. It’d be a brave man who bets against both Crouch boys hitting 150 games. Using this as the benchmark, the odds of success for a given draftee drop again.

This should be (although going by this thread, frequently isn’t) considered when assessing the relative value of draft picks or recent draftees against established players.

I'm going to pinch this and add it to the resources thread. I'll credit you

Resource - FAQs: Rules, Regulations and Resources for Player Movements in the AFL

List sizes Club age and height profiles Salary cap information Trading rules including salary dumps Father/son & academy draft bids Free agency compensation formula & more

www.bigfooty.com

 

[BangyBangy]

Both Crouch's, Greenwood, 4 for Rankine/Lukosious and a 2nd rounder back.

Rankine has re-signed. Loves it on the Gold Coast. Couldn't get out of Adelaide quick enough. Clearly not the flight risk everyone thought he was.

 

[Cleric]

Trade Radio keeps on giving.

Also, don't know if it has been discussed on here.

But if Adelaide want to bring Grundy in as a FA next year, that completely voids their compensation pick and they could potentially lose Crouch for nothing if he decides to up and leave.

A lot of 'ifs' in that scenario, but interesting none the less.

Except Adelaide know Grundy isn't leaving Collingwood. But if that helps you sleep at night.

 

[Cleric]

AFL Website compares him to Lachie Neale, and values him at around pick 15+20.

Trade comparisons: What are the top targets worth?

A historical comparison of what the top seven trade targets might be worth on the open market

www.afl.com.au

No way the Crows take that. Pick 15 and 11 next year maybe.

 

[gcsunsfc]

If you thought you had a chance of Lukosius staying, it'd be a definite no.

If he's two and done, I reckon they'd panic trade knowing there's probably significantly less on offer next year.

We’ve literally said he’s off the table from the CEO and the list manager. Not sure how much more categoric you can get.
We are not trading jack lukosius this year.

 

[kreglze]

Except Adelaide know Grundy isn't leaving Collingwood. But if that helps you sleep at night.

It doesn't? I was just throwing up an interesting scenario, I know some of the Crows people on here have been interested in Grundy. I don't think he ends up on the GC anyway.

Don't have to take it as an attack.