Autopsy AFL 2021 First Preliminary Final - Demons v Cats Fri September 10th 7:50pm EST / 5:50pm WST (Optus)

Who will win and by how much?

  • Demons by a goal or less

    Votes: 6 3.2%
  • Cats by a goal or less

    Votes: 12 6.3%
  • Demons by 7 - 20

    Votes: 76 40.0%
  • Cats by 7 - 20

    Votes: 28 14.7%
  • Demons by a lot

    Votes: 60 31.6%
  • Cats by a lot

    Votes: 6 3.2%
  • Draw

    Votes: 2 1.1%

  • Total voters
    190
  • Poll closed .

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NonPhixion

Bookie Assassin
Mar 27, 2018
5,833
9,574
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Cleveland Browns, Tony Ferguson
I want an AFL calendar with Gary Rohan pictured in the month of september
 

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00Stinger

Dual Group 1 winner
May 8, 2007
29,772
35,729
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AFL Club
Melbourne
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Liverpool & San Francisco 49ers
Favourite bits of last night's game:
  • Lever telling Rivers that "we need you going for the ball" or words to that effect after he had given away a totally unnecessary free kick to Miers and was having a whinge to the umpire about it. Great leadership
  • Oliver gently pointing out the scoreboard to Atkins after Atkins was trying to give him a gob full after a contest with the ball resulting in going out of bounds. Atkins wouldn't have got a kick out of an electric chair last night, and what's the point of "sledging" when you are more than 10 goals behind? Bit like giving a send off to a batsman that has just made a double century, and you dropped him on 10.
Haha reminds me off the time Mitchell Johnson gave Chris Gayle a send off after he made 150 odd at the Adelaide oval

There is a time and place

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willydave

All Australian
Oct 25, 2002
880
271
Melbourne
AFL Club
Melbourne
Good to see Scott using excuses in his post game interview

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He was genuinely in shock.

i think he knew they were up against it going in, but he wasn’t expecting to get blown off the park.

All jokes aside on Rohan, how the hell does he manage to have no impact in these games. He’s a threat in the air and on the ground,good mark for his size, pace to burn, good finisher and then doesn’t show up in these big games. It has to be 90% above the shoulders.
 

00Stinger

Dual Group 1 winner
May 8, 2007
29,772
35,729
@ HOME
AFL Club
Melbourne
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Liverpool & San Francisco 49ers
I want an AFL calendar with Gary Rohan pictured in the month of september
There was a Gary Rohan calender


It got pulled from the market as people complained that September was missing

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rado

Club Legend
Feb 18, 2007
1,525
2,363
Melbourne
AFL Club
Richmond
I think it’s as much about that midfield reload factor.

The problem isn’t so much that the kids haven’t come on, it’s that there has been zero attempts to bring the kids on. So they get a game here or there but don’t develop, or develop to a point where if they were playing ones they’d go to the next level, but they’re stuck in the VFL because there hasn’t been that commitment to bring them on for various reasons.

What it means in practice is a hollowing out of the list in the 23-26 bracket because blokes either leave or get delisted because they are judged not good enough.

Honestly, it raises big questions about Geelong’s development program. Wells drafting the talent is one thing but they aren’t turning into AFL players, which is a huge problem. And it’s a question for the coach as much as the dev team.
I’m not sure the VFL program for any of the AFL teams has been ideal. Over the last 2 years the ability to bring young AFL listed players has been difficult for all clubs, least of all those clubs pressing for finals and a flag.
I’m not sure the cats don’t have a host of quality kids, nor even want to blood more, but it’s been a difficult balancing act for them and now a reset appears inevitable I’m sure more kids will get played
 

MickG88

Senior List
May 19, 2017
205
278
AFL Club
St Kilda
Is this the end of Geelong's reign on top, 2007 Geelong beat Port by 100 odd points in a Grand Final and now they were beaten by 80 odd points by Melbourne in a PF. As a Saints supporter I would take 15 years in the top 8 and three premierships.
 

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Finknottle

Team Captain
Aug 2, 2020
331
690
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Geelong
He was genuinely in shock.

i think he knew they were up against it going in, but he wasn’t expecting to get blown off the park.

All jokes aside on Rohan, how the hell does he manage to have no impact in these games. He’s a threat in the air and on the ground,good mark for his size, pace to burn, good finisher and then doesn’t show up in these big games. It has to be 90% above the shoulders.
Last night he had only 1 disposal which he turned over for a disposal efficiency of zero %. Even the orange boy had a higher dream team rating.
 

Chinacats

Premiership Player
Sep 20, 2014
4,449
5,263
AFL Club
Geelong
Favourite bits of last night's game:
  • Lever telling Rivers that "we need you going for the ball" or words to that effect after he had given away a totally unnecessary free kick to Miers and was having a whinge to the umpire about it. Great leadership
  • Oliver gently pointing out the scoreboard to Atkins after Atkins was trying to give him a gob full after a contest with the ball resulting in going out of bounds. Atkins wouldn't have got a kick out of an electric chair last night, and what's the point of "sledging" when you are more than 10 goals behind? Bit like giving a send off to a batsman that has just made a double century, and you dropped him on 10.
Yes Lever showing outstanding leadership qualities. Driving the standards.
 

PenfoldsFan

All Australian
Mar 4, 2015
882
1,260
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
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Hawthorn, Central Districts
We've got to get over your lot first, but the Dogs beat the Dees last we played them. But since then we've lost our FF and FB. I don't see how we can be favourites for either tonight's game or next week.

Hope we beat you, but if not, I've got a soft spot for Port. That means I'll have conflicted feelings 'cause I'd love to see the Dees break their drought, too (know what it feels like!).
With the Cats out, everone's a winner now, good luck.
 

Polly

All Australian
May 2, 2006
934
97
In Denial
AFL Club
Fremantle
Favourite bits of last night's game:
  • Lever telling Rivers that "we need you going for the ball" or words to that effect after he had given away a totally unnecessary free kick to Miers and was having a whinge to the umpire about it. Great leadership
  • Oliver gently pointing out the scoreboard to Atkins after Atkins was trying to give him a gob full after a contest with the ball resulting in going out of bounds. Atkins wouldn't have got a kick out of an electric chair last night, and what's the point of "sledging" when you are more than 10 goals behind? Bit like giving a send off to a batsman that has just made a double century, and you dropped him on 10.
Also Scott and his team moving the magnets at three quarter time whilst the players waited. Cmon mate, just go and talk to the boys. I reckon the runner with the board had already put his ideas down before handing it to Scott anyway 😄
 

deanc

Premiership Player
Jun 13, 2014
3,332
4,127
Waverley
AFL Club
Hawthorn
Other Teams
Tasmania
Poor old Isaac (well, not really,given he had success at Hawthorn):

In 2016 he had a deadset easy shot for goal after the siren to win the game against Geelong, and put them into a Prelim (?). Instead, he fluffed it, putting them into a match against the Bulldogs, but they were still favourites to beat the Dogs and be a chance for the fourpeat.

The Dogs ended their run at four consecutive flags, and broke a 62 year drought.

Fast forward a couple of years. He's traded to the same team that beat the Hawks in 2016. Hmm, perhaps a flag or two at the Cattery? We know how that turned out.

A personal sidenote: In 2016 I had a Hawk-supporting colleague at work who would absolutely give it to me at any opportunity about the Doggies' poor history, and how great his beloved Hawks were.

I had great pleasure in nicknaming him "Isaac" from that point onward :) (EDIT: I'd alternately call him "Straight Sets").
Smith just adds to the growing list of former Hawks players not winning flags at other clubs who have been in recent contention (Josh Kennedy, the exception) - list includes; McGlynn/Ellis/Franklin/Savage/Suckling/Mitchell/Lewis/Hodge/Birchall/Smith, just waiting on Duryea to join them..?

On a somewhat related note if the Dogs lose tonight, it will end the streak of Clarkson and his former assistants winning every flag since 2013 - although even if the Dogs somehow upset Port, I can't see them knocking off the Dees in the GF...!
 

ToreadorMarch

Club Legend
May 19, 2018
1,691
1,644
AFL Club
Geelong
There simply wasn't the time you see..Chris Scott had to catch a bus.

A BUS PEOPLE!! Don't you understand?!

I mean his team just dished up perhaps the worst 2nd half in the history of prelims..but meters be tickin'
Attended the press conference that went longer than most press conferences given this year. Answered all the questions and acquitted himself well in difficult circumstances. But don’t let facts get in the way of your story - it isn’t his issue if the AFL app didn’t load it up.
 

PetterdHoisted

Norm Smith Medallist
Apr 27, 2014
5,336
7,869
AFL Club
Richmond
Attended the press conference that went longer than most press conferences given this year. Answered all the questions and acquitted himself well in difficult circumstances. But don’t let facts get in the way of your story - it isn’t his issue if the AFL app didn’t load it up.
nup, no matter which way you dice it, that was really poor.

You don't dish up the worst 2nd half performance in a prelim in 120+ years and start your press conference with 'make it quick guys I have a bus to catch'

The Geelong members that pay his salary need to be respected more than that.
 

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