Rumour GFC 2020 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[Boxhead_31]

Ablett retired
Taylor retired
Stanley 2 more
Tuohy year deal
Fort 1 more unless we get an established ruck added
Close (R) 2 more
Brownless (R) delisted
Henderson (R) 1 more
Parfitt 3 more
Cockatoo traded (please no)
Z Guthrie delisted
Simpson delisted I think but unfortunate
Jarvis 1 more
Kennerley delisted
Tarca delisted
Narkle 2 more
Parsons delisted
Okunbor (R) upgrade to rookie A list
Schlensog (R) 1 more on rookie list

Constable traded
Atkins upgrade to main list

that leaves 32-2-1 on list
add 3 at draft picks 11, 15, 16
add 2 FA most likely Crouch and hopefully Cameron
add trade for Higgins round 2 pick
add greek freak as rookie B

2 more years for a Ruckman who can't play a full season???
Stanley has to be on a year by year contract now, especially so since he is 31 now

 

[Larry Donohue]

2 more years for a Ruckman who can't play a full season???
Stanley has to be on a year by year contract now, especially so since he is 31 now

when we have better options

 

[catswhiskers]

Ablett retired
Taylor retired
Stanley 2 more
Tuohy year deal
Fort 1 more unless we get an established ruck added
Close (R) 2 more
Brownless (R) delisted
Henderson (R) 1 more
Parfitt 3 more
Cockatoo traded (please no)
Z Guthrie delisted
Simpson delisted I think but unfortunate
Jarvis 1 more
Kennerley delisted
Tarca delisted
Narkle 2 more
Parsons delisted
Okunbor (R) upgrade to rookie A list
Schlensog (R) 1 more on rookie list

Constable traded
Atkins upgrade to main list

that leaves 32-2-1 on list
add 3 at draft picks 11, 15, 16
add 2 FA most likely Crouch and hopefully Cameron
add trade for Higgins round 2 pick
add greek freak as rookie B

Like it.
Another option might go like this - for me anyway.

I would prefer not to engage with Higgins. And build 2 first rounders into one of smaller number eg. 15/16 for 7? : Thats two extra retained
For me those two would be in order Zuthrie and Parsons.

I would like to keep Cockatoo also. Henderson ? can we run without Taylor and Hendo? Not unless Kreuger has shown he is capable enough down back or we have a tall defender in our sights for trade (Constable or second round pick) or a state leaguer.

Simpson would surely get a gig at a bottom 8 side.
Zuthrie and Parsons will be reading offers from other clubs right now I reckon and might decide to pull the trigger anyway.

As always - very interesting with even more unknowns than usual.

 

[David the Cat]

So at this stage, without knowing what the changes to list size will be, list changes could look like -

Outs - Ablett (ret), Taylor (ret), Parsons, Brownless, Jenkins, Kennerley, Simpson. Reckon one of Tarca or Atkins could be vulnerable too.

Ins - Crouch, Higgins, 4 draft picks - names to consider include include Cox, Perkins, Trew, Henry, Ford, O’Driscoll, Reid, Max Heath and Poulter.

Atkins vulnerable...? unlikely...as much as you may wish it...

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Ablett retired
Taylor retired
Stanley 2 more
Tuohy year deal
Fort 1 more unless we get an established ruck added
Close (R) 2 more
Brownless (R) delisted
Henderson (R) 1 more
Parfitt 3 more
Cockatoo traded (please no)
Z Guthrie delisted
Simpson delisted I think but unfortunate
Jarvis 1 more
Kennerley delisted
Tarca delisted
Narkle 2 more
Parsons delisted
Okunbor (R) upgrade to rookie A list
Schlensog (R) 1 more on rookie list

Constable traded
Atkins upgrade to main list

that leaves 32-2-1 on list
add 3 at draft picks 11, 15, 16
add 2 FA most likely Crouch and hopefully Cameron
add trade for Higgins round 2 pick
add greek freak as rookie B

Agree completely with all those although I'd rookie Kennerley and drop Schlensog maybe. Take a Zach Reid or Nick Cox at the draft to replace him.

 

[bellpark]

Ablett retired
Taylor retired
Stanley 2 more
Tuohy year deal
Fort 1 more unless we get an established ruck added
Close (R) 2 more
Brownless (R) delisted
Henderson (R) 1 more
Parfitt 3 more
Cockatoo traded (please no)
Z Guthrie delisted
Simpson delisted I think but unfortunate
Jarvis 1 more
Kennerley delisted
Tarca delisted
Narkle 2 more
Parsons delisted
Okunbor (R) upgrade to rookie A list
Schlensog (R) 1 more on rookie list

Constable traded
Atkins upgrade to main list

that leaves 32-2-1 on list
add 3 at draft picks 11, 15, 16
add 2 FA most likely Crouch and hopefully Cameron
add trade for Higgins round 2 pick
add greek freak as rookie B

I think the shape of the delisting and trade outs is about right. I don’t agree with Cameron (too much money with the likely cap cuts), and Crouch ( too injury prone and risk will be even more important with reduced lists), I think Higgins is good, and that Witherden would be good value. If Cameron doesn’t come, we should be after a ruck and better to get say Goldy for a year or two in terms of impact on our immediate chances. If we got a proven ruck then we could trim one of current crop.

 

[frggr]

Wasn't Z Guthrie emergency for a stack of games this year? It would suggest the club rate him on some level

 

[Gunf]

The price you have to pay: All the top trade targets and their market value

Mitch Cleary looks at the value of this year's potential trade and free agency targets

www.afl.com.au

Some of these are way over priced and some under priced (draft pick wise)

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I think the shape of the delisting and trade outs is about right. I don’t agree with Cameron (too much money with the likely cap cuts), and Crouch ( too injury prone and risk will be even more important with reduced lists), I think Higgins is good, and that Witherden would be good value. If Cameron doesn’t come, we should be after a ruck and better to get say Goldy for a year or two in terms of impact on our immediate chances. If we got a proven ruck then we could trim one of current crop.

I agree but I don't think Goldy is gettable that ship has sailed.

 

[catman2006]

With all the compo picks and NGA talent our 1st rd will be 2nd rd...

 

[Gunf]

With all the compo picks and NGA talent our 1st rd will be 2nd rd...

Our fist pick will slip to around 15 and the next 2 into the 20-25 range would be my guess

Could be a lot worse not completely privy to all academy kids inside the top 20

 

[year of the cat]

Wasn't Z Guthrie emergency for a stack of games this year? It would suggest the club rate him on some level

I’m sure they do but can you continue to carry a guy that can’t get a regular game when list sizes are being cut and you are required to continue to bring new players in?

 

[Drunkcat]

We have our first Delisting sad news Half Cat has been told his services are no longer required

 

[Gunf]

I’m sure they do but can you continue to carry a guy that can’t get a regular game when lost sizes are being cut and you are required to continue to bring new players in?

No matter who we cut and draft/trade we will be carrying players who are just depth and or developing Zuthrie is a good depth option

 

[year of the cat]

No matter who we cut and draft/trade we will be carrying players who are just depth and or developing Zuthrie is a good depth option

Then it begs the question - why give Guthrie more of an opportunity to develop than say Tarca or Kennerley? I would have thought if you’d been in the system as long as Guthrie had you’d be wanting more from him by now. He’s only going to be bog average at best.

 

[Gunf]

Then it begs the question - why give Guthrie more of an opportunity to develop than say Tarca or Kennerley? I would have thought if you’d been in the system as long as Guthrie had you’d be wanting more from him by now. He’s only going to be bog average at best.

Which players do we have that are small defenders that are developing atm(genuine question can't remember any) Tarca and Kennerly are Forwards or mids from memory. oops forgot Clark

If we have some small defenders at or really close to Zuthries level that we prefer to develop he then becomes surplus.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Which players do we have that are small defenders that are developing atm(genuine question can't remember any) Tarca and Kennerly are Forwards or mids from memory. oops forgot Clark

If we have some small defenders at or really close to Zuthries level that we prefer to develop he then becomes surplus.

He isn't really a small defender though. He's one paced and plays like a tall in a scrawny body. We need running defenders.

 

[year of the cat]

He isn't really a small defender though. He's one paced and plays like a tall in a scrawny body. We need running defenders.

Agree. I’m not sure what positionally he is? Too slow to play as a small defender.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Agree. I’m not sure what positionally he is? Too slow to play as a small defender.

I'd be almost tempted to trade Constable, Narkle and Cockatoo for future picks, trade our future 1st for a 1st rounder in this years draft and use 4 first rounders this year to select Zane Trew/Tanner Bruhn, Zach Reid, Archie Perkins and Eddie Ford/Oliver Henry. That'd give us a nice mix for the future.

 

[Gunf]

He isn't really a small defender though. He's one paced and plays like a tall in a scrawny body. We need running defenders.

Even if he isn't a small defender who replaces him for depth since that is the place the MC pick him for the majority of the time. I can only think of Clark (again not privy to entire lists best positions may have more)

 

[Gunf]

I'd be almost tempted to trade Constable, Narkle and Cockatoo for future picks, trade our future 1st for a 1st rounder in this years draft and use 4 first rounders this year to select Zane Trew/Tanner Bruhn, Zach Reid, Archie Perkins and Eddie Ford/Oliver Henry. That'd give us a nice mix for the future.

I actually don't mind that idea who would you try to trade our future first with? maybe the Dogs since it will just get eaten this year by bids?

 

[00VicWard001]

I cannot believe that 2MP is available at a 2nd-3rd pick. A few years back, we were dreaming of him as the one that got away when we drafted Nakia. I would be getting him into our team before I take Daniher. Trade them Constable or Narkle in return OR even Cockatoo.

 

[year of the cat]

I'd be almost tempted to trade Constable, Narkle and Cockatoo for future picks, trade our future 1st for a 1st rounder in this years draft and use 4 first rounders this year to select Zane Trew/Tanner Bruhn, Zach Reid, Archie Perkins and Eddie Ford/Oliver Henry. That'd give us a nice mix for the future.

I've cooled on Constable. Rated him early, but like ZGuthrie, he needed to show a bit more (though was unlucky with concussion). He's expendable. Narkle and Cockatoo I'm torn on. Both have high ceilings I reckon - it's just whether we are going to see it? I'd keep one. I think we need to take at least the 4 picks. Currently I'm thinking Nic Cox, Archie Perkins, Eddie Ford (as Henry will go earlier) and maybe Trew. Though I'd like to get a young ruck in as well.

Not sure about Bruhn. His injury history concerns me.

 

[Baudolino]

Agree. I’m not sure what positionally he is? Too slow to play as a small defender.

Mid-sized defender who can zone off and take intercept marks.

I actually like Zuthrie, he's got good composure and makes smart decisions, although obviously his physicality is a weakness. The issue for him though long-term is structurally I don't see room for all three of Kolo, Henry and Zuthrie in the same side unless Kolo becomes our post-Harry KPD. And Kolo may not be suited to/good enough for that role.

 

[Baudolino]

The price you have to pay: All the top trade targets and their market value

Mitch Cleary looks at the value of this year's potential trade and free agency targets

www.afl.com.au

Some of these are way over priced and some under priced (draft pick wise)

I still don't get this sudden media consensus that Brown is worth only a second round pick. Seems bizarre to me. A second round pick for a guy who 12 months ago finished second on the Coleman with his third consecutive 60+ goal haul in a league starved for quality KPFs? I know he's had a poor season but it's only one year. A second rounder for a 27-year-old KPF who has produced what he has at AFL level is massive unders.