Review Round 14, 2023 vs Geelong
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How have you come to that conclusion?
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Each coach votes in 5 names. There are 9 players listed. Only one name was common.
The maximum vote by a coach is 5. Houston got more than 5 votes. He must have been voted by both.
So, Houston is the common name.
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So the Coaches named nine different players in their best player list, that is strange.
Apart from Dan Houston I thought Max Holmes from Geelong and Connor Rozee would have made both lists.
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I have no idea who voted on whom, but these were the votes:
5 Jeremy Finlayson - Dan Houston
4 Dan Houston - Todd Marshall
3 Connor Rozee - Zak Butters
2 Ollie Wines - Scott Lycett
1 Sam Powell-Pepper - Gary Rohan (GEEL)
5 and 4 must go together. After that, any combination could be the right one.
Those are bad votes. SPP only 1 vote, the same amount as Gary Rohan who disappeared after 1 quarter?
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Scott must have voted for Rohan just to give 1 point to his best player.
Thus, Hinkley gave 1 to SPP.
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Whichever coach didn’t have Marshall in their top five should be sacked.
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Gary Rohan is Hinkley’s cousin.
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I think it was Hinkley but even if it wasn't he should still be sacked.
Sure, but Scott and Hinks may have given 1 vote each to a player who then got 2 votes total.
Or 3 and 1 etc etc..
Let's be honest, he deserved at least 1. Played an incredible first quarter.
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There were two players who each got one vote, which rules that scenario out.
Not when you have 2 blokes who got one vote
Start from the bottom and work up.
2 blokes got 1 vote. Only 1 way that's possible.
Therefore 2 blokes got 2 votes and 2 blokes got 3 votes.
The rest takes care of itself.
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Ah yes I see what you're saying.
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10 names - 0 common
9 names - 1 common
8 names - 2 common
7 names - 3 common
6 names - 4 common
5 names - 5 common
9 names - 1 common
8 names - 2 common
7 names - 3 common
6 names - 4 common
5 names - 5 common
RussellEbertHandball
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Thought this scatter chart by WheeloRatings does for every game was interesting to see who delivered when comparing Player Ratings Points against Wheelo's estimated ratings points calculation.
The Y axis is actual pts recorded and X axis is estimated rating pts. You can change X and & Y axis for many other variables at the link above the Scatter Chart.
SPP is the one that stands out at nearly 18 pts achieved highest on the Y axis, 17.3 and estimated at 8.6, Butters is the one way out to the right and on the line as he achieved 15.4 and estimated was 15.2. In between is Houston who achieved 16.6 and was estimated at 12.2. The line basically is the best fit line of average expectated ratings points across the 44 players.
The 2 players to the left of SPP and below him are Marshall 15.4 v 7.8 and Gary Rohan playing his once in a blue moon blinder 15.2 v 7.6
The Port players below Sam are to the right Lycett 14.0 v 9.7 and to his left is DBJ 13.7 v 8.6, under DBJ is Farrell 12.2 v 8.8 and under him is Burton 11.4 v 9.0.
The two Port players that are off to the right and way below average are Rozee furthest to the right 7.3 v 14.6, he was hurt by a few clangers he made, didn't win as many clearances as usual, not as much contested possessions, not as many I50s and didn't kick one his tough goals, actually had 2 shots for only 1 behind, and Dixon 3.1 v 13.3 and that's because he is playing on one leg and not able to do the things he normally does.
The 3 Geelong players to the right of Rozee who were most down were Dangerfield 7.2 v 13.2, to his left and lower down Blicavs 6.4 v 12.6, and Stewart 7.4 v 12.3
Whilst I don't always agree with the Player Rating algorithm as it can harshly grade mistakes and doesn't reward some team footy stuff high enough, I reckon this actual vs estimated pts scatter chart gives a decent explanation of why and who helped us dominate the game.
The Y axis is actual pts recorded and X axis is estimated rating pts. You can change X and & Y axis for many other variables at the link above the Scatter Chart.
SPP is the one that stands out at nearly 18 pts achieved highest on the Y axis, 17.3 and estimated at 8.6, Butters is the one way out to the right and on the line as he achieved 15.4 and estimated was 15.2. In between is Houston who achieved 16.6 and was estimated at 12.2. The line basically is the best fit line of average expectated ratings points across the 44 players.
The 2 players to the left of SPP and below him are Marshall 15.4 v 7.8 and Gary Rohan playing his once in a blue moon blinder 15.2 v 7.6
The Port players below Sam are to the right Lycett 14.0 v 9.7 and to his left is DBJ 13.7 v 8.6, under DBJ is Farrell 12.2 v 8.8 and under him is Burton 11.4 v 9.0.
The two Port players that are off to the right and way below average are Rozee furthest to the right 7.3 v 14.6, he was hurt by a few clangers he made, didn't win as many clearances as usual, not as much contested possessions, not as many I50s and didn't kick one his tough goals, actually had 2 shots for only 1 behind, and Dixon 3.1 v 13.3 and that's because he is playing on one leg and not able to do the things he normally does.
The 3 Geelong players to the right of Rozee who were most down were Dangerfield 7.2 v 13.2, to his left and lower down Blicavs 6.4 v 12.6, and Stewart 7.4 v 12.3
Whilst I don't always agree with the Player Rating algorithm as it can harshly grade mistakes and doesn't reward some team footy stuff high enough, I reckon this actual vs estimated pts scatter chart gives a decent explanation of why and who helped us dominate the game.
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Gary Rohan did do a Wayne Carey ( to quote Luke Darcy from a finals game last year) in the 1st quarter. No idea what sort of clangers JHF did in the 3rd Qtr to rate -5.77. Did give away 1 free but he might have kicked it out on the full a couple of times and missed a shot on goal.
If you kick a pt from 15m out you get -3.90 and out on the full -4.80 but I don't remember him doing that so maybe it was 40m out.
Edit looks like its not Champion Data's ratings points but something similar.
Gary Rohan did do a Wayne Carey ( to quote Luke Darcy from a finals game last year) in the 1st quarter. No idea what sort of clangers JHF did in the 3rd Qtr to rate -5.77. Did give away 1 free but he might have kicked it out on the full a couple of times and missed a shot on goal.
If you kick a pt from 15m out you get -3.90 and out on the full -4.80 but I don't remember him doing that so maybe it was 40m out.
Edit looks like its not Champion Data's ratings points but something similar.
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