Rumour GFC 2021 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists... Part II

[CatRiot]

Not too fussed that Brander isn’t coming to us. I do think though we need to bring in a mature tall - Skinner sounding the best option of those available.

You'd think Skinner will be available by Pick 50 or Later, or even Rookie too.

 

[year of the cat]

You'd think Skinner will be available by Pick 50 or Later, or even Rookie too.

Rookie I’d assume.

 

[Turbocat]

Id want a clean medical on skinner given his history but on form hes worth taking.

done his knee twice?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

done his knee twice?

3 times i think?

 

[Turbocat]

3 times i think?

pass I think id rather give a kid a go like Dean. or Morrison at the falcons. Both probably there late.

 

[tielgaz]

Could be trading up or trading into next year (for eg essendon clearly want a R2 and will probably trade a future 2nd for it).

A second Round for a second round, hard to get excited over that. Surely we use the pick rather than trade for that!

 

[year of the cat]

A second Round for a second round, hard to get excited over that. Surely we use the pick rather than trade for that!

Bombers are on the rise too imo. They’re second rounder next year won’t be great.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Knevitt really doesn’t excite me. Very Constable like from this footage. Poor disposal, lack of composure, tall but not dominant.

People on hear are seduced by a 193 mid playing for the falcons thinking he’s the next bont or Cripps but forget those players are special. What’s important is how they play. There is nothing bont or cripps like from the way he plays from this footage. Can’t afford another bust with our first pick or get seduced by the fact he plays for the falcons

Isn't Knevitt an obscenely better athlete though? If Chook could run he would be a different player

 

[tielgaz]

Bombers are on the rise too imo. They’re second rounder next year won’t be great.

Exactly. If they want to get in the draft they have got to offer something more than that.

 

[year of the cat]

Exactly. If they want to get in the draft they have got to offer something more than that.

We gave up our first for a second only last year.

 

[Shadow89]

Getting pretty confident that we'll take one DFA, and that it'll likely be Schlensog (given Wells' public commentary on us being interested and Brander going to GWS). With that being the case, I do expect that two of our three late 30's picks will be used to get further up the board this year, whilst also getting us in the draft next year - that's the most likely play IMO. I.e. Dogs Pick 23 and Future 3rd, for 32 and 34 (don't think it'll be with the Dogs, but just using this as an example given our list spot predicament).

Allows us to basically get a free hit at Schlensog, whilst keeping our later pick 50 that will move up to 44 or 43 once bids come in . Gives us 22, 23, 30, 43, Schlensog and a Future 3rd (again as an example of what's possible). That would be an amazing outcome

 

[cats_09]

Getting pretty confident that we'll take one DFA, and that it'll likely be Schlensog (given Wells' public commentary on us being interested and Brander going to GWS). With that being the case, I do expect that our two late 30's picks will be used to get further up the board this year, while also getting us in the draft next year - that's the most likely play IMO. I.e. Dogs Pick 23 and Future 3rd, for 32 and 34 (don't think it'll be with the Dogs, but just using this as an example given our list spot predicament).

Allows us to basically get a free hit at Schlensog, whilst keeping our later pick 50 that will move up to 44 or 43 once bids come in . Gives us 22, 23, 30, 43, Schlensog and a Future 3rd (again as an example of what's possible). That would be an amazing outcome

Aren't we already committed to taking Stengle as a free agent

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Bombers are on the rise too imo. They’re second rounder next year won’t be great.

To be honest though if it's 34 a future second is unlikely to be later and it will be in a draft with better vision on it with half a year this year and a full year next year

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Isn't Knevitt an obscenely better athlete though? If Chook could run he would be a different player

Knevitt is yes and thats part of the appeal with him.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

We gave up our first for a second only last year.

20 (holmes) was a late R1 but it was still a R1 so it was a FR1 for a R1.

 

[Turbocat]

20 (holmes) was a late R1 but it was still a R1 so it was a FR1 for a R1.

in the end it will be 3 spots in the draft or less. Considering Holmes played 9 games it was a reasonable trade.

 

[Shadow89]

Aren't we already committed to taking Stengle as a free agent

Yep, that's with him included in the equation (we have 5 senior list spots with Stengle on our list - would then have 4 senior spots if we took Schlensog as a DFA).

 

[year of the cat]

20 (holmes) was a late R1 but it was still a R1 so it was a FR1 for a R1.

Stand corrected. A very late round one.

 

[Shooooltzey]

Yep, that's with him included in the equation (we have 5 senior list spots with Stengle on our list - would then have 4 senior spots if we took Schlensog as a DFA).

Isn't it 5 list spots for the national draft if we get 2 DFA's?

Out (exclude okunbor and browness due to cat b and rookie):


Jordan Clark
Charlie Constable
Darcy Fort
Lachie Henderson
Ben Jarvis
Josh Jenkins
Nathan Kreuger
Cameron Taheny

Total = 8

In:

Ceglar
Stengle
Schlensog

Total = 3

8 - 3 = 5

 

[Shadow89]

Isn't it 5 list spots for the national draft if we get 2 DFA's?

Out (exclude okunbor and browness due to cat b and rookie):


Jordan Clark
Charlie Constable
Darcy Fort
Lachie Henderson
Ben Jarvis
Josh Jenkins
Nathan Kreuger
Cameron Taheny

Total = 8

In:

Ceglar
Stengle
Schlensog

Total = 3

8 - 3 = 5

Hendo was a rookie

 

[Shooooltzey]

Hendo was a rookie

That's right. Forgot he got delisted and rookied a few years back.

 

[year of the cat]

foodles05 - tell me about Harvey Harrison. You would have seen him. Highlights look impressive and is the type we need - pace, win own footy, good by foot. Why isn’t he rated higher amongst the Draft gurus?

 

[foodles05]

foodles05 - tell me about Harvey Harrison. You would have seen him. Highlights look impressive and is the type we need - pace, win own footy, good by foot. Why isn’t he rated higher amongst the Draft gurus?

Couldn't tell you. I think he is a real player. Lacked self belief a lot and that has held him back but I always thought he was a better prospect than Hugh Jackson. I just think it's his reduced production in the second half of the year and a little question mark over his kicking (of which I think there is no question but that's what recruiters tell me) . A little mentally fragile but has serious AFL attributes and with a later pick I would definitely take him. His run and carry would arguably be the best in the draft. He can explode from stoppage and just keep going and going and going. Haven't watched him closely enough to know how he rates inside the contest other than he can win his own ball and can rack up clearances. However like I said I haven't forensically analysed right inside the contest and how much first ball he wins. However it doesn't matter cause he is elite on the inside. The main question I guess is for an outside mid he can be sloppy but foot but I think that is much much more concentration and decision making than technique. Whether he can learn to make better decisions and slow down once in space will be the thing but I have no reason to doubt he will. Want him

 

[foodles05]

I meant to say elite on the outside year of the cat

 

[year of the cat]

Couldn't tell you. I think he is a real player. Lacked self belief a lot and that has held him back but I always thought he was a better prospect than Hugh Jackson. I just think it's his reduced production in the second half of the year and a little question mark over his kicking (of which I think there is no question but that's what recruiters tell me) . A little mentally fragile but has serious AFL attributes and with a later pick I would definitely take him. His run and carry would arguably be the best in the draft. He can explode from stoppage and just keep going and going and going. Haven't watched him closely enough to know how he rates inside the contest other than he can win his own ball and can rack up clearances. However like I said I haven't forensically analysed right inside the contest and how much first ball he wins. However it doesn't matter cause he is elite on the inside. The main question I guess is for an outside mid he can be sloppy but foot but I think that is much much more concentration and decision making than technique. Whether he can learn to make better decisions and slow down once in space will be the thing but I have no reason to doubt he will. Want him

His kicking technique looks pretty sound to me, particularly when he’s running a million miles an hour. As you say, looks good inside. Made a few ordinary decisions but he’s only young. No idea on his production though? He looks like he should be able to rack up decent numbers even if he isn’t just yet.