OK, I see. I do think Jackson and Taranto would be relatively comparable in trade worth (and that by this 'economy of scale', there is no way Meek could be worth a top 25 pick)
Traded Lloyd Meek - [Traded with F2 (Dogs) to Hawthorn for Jaeger O'Meara and F4]
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I'll raise another example to show the contract is the most valuable thing in football.
Griffin Logue to North for 5x $800,000 out of contract with the PSD threat is their F2 pick.
Griffin Logue to North for 5x $800,000 in contract is an upgrade of #13 to pick #1 or a future first.
Next year Meek will walk for cheap if clubs are still interested in him, if he plays most of the year and dominates then he still goes for unders because he is out of contract.
Let's agree to disagree - I can see no way you would be given pick 1 (or a future pick 1-3) in a deal for Logue under contract. I would be shocked if any neutral would agree with that.
Let's just wait and see - If Meek is traded for a top 25 pick (or an F2) without anything of note coming back (such as your own F2 or F3, making it a small pick upgrade), you will be correct. I'm pretty confident it will be less than that.
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It's the contract. It's always the contract. I think you're right that if he moves it will be upgrading a later pick into the second round pick. I think it's far more likely that Meek doesn't move at all.
There's no obligation to move him, and regarding the Logue under contract but offered $3.5-4m - that's exactly how North coughs up their first for him.
Good question. I believe we should use a pick range rather than a round of pick. A North round 2 is the same as a Geelong round 1. I think Meek is worth a 30 to 40 to Hawthorn.
“A match winner”!? you hardly won any matches when Hill was there, Freo finished 14th, 14th and 13th. Of the games you did win Hill never got 3 Brownlow votes and 2 votes only on 1 occasion. That‘s hardly a “Match Winner”. Sounds more like a really good role player to me, like at Hawthorn.
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Bradley Hill wins Doig Medal
Bradley Hill has won his first Doig Medal in his first season at the club
Because that insurance is only for 1 year. You risk getting next to nothing next year as he will be out of contract, see Louge and Tucker Trade.
Yes great a F&B, I am not questioning he was your best player in 2017. But the statement was Hill was a Match Winner at Freo, what matches did he win for you? I would say maybe a couple, remember you hardly won any matches.Bradley Hill wins Doig Medal
Bradley Hill has won his first Doig Medal in his first season at the clubwww.fremantlefc.com.au
PS, Hill got more Brownlow votes at Hawthorn in 2015 than he did at Freo in 2017. Being a better player in a lesser team doesn’t mean you’ve become a better player.
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What Hawthorn is offering is next to nothing.
Do you expect Hawks to be bottom and Meek selects your team again ?
Stat wise B Hill was better at Fremantle.
Bradley Hill of the St Kilda Saints Career AFL Stats
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Yes his performance was superior mainly because he was entering his prime.
My guess if he stayed at Hawthorn his performances would have improved just like it did at Fremantle.
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Yea but Bobby hill got a second so your f2 will do it
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Honestly surprised pick 24 is in the discussion but good on Freo for trying to get amazing outcomes.
Again, most dockers fans do rate Meek. I also think Meek will remain in the dockers list for 2023.
Yep, even with Jackson coming in I think we hold one of Lobb or Meek for injury cover.
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They must be thrilled with that prospect.
Just like they are thrilled with job security when they originally signed. You can’t have it both ways when it suits.
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Lobb is more a Fwd / Ruck, so I can understand Freo wanting to keep him.
If Jackson comes in surely Meek will not be needed.
If they kept Meek, and he played WAFL all year, his value goes down.
If Jackson comes in surely Meek will not be needed.
If they kept Meek, and he played WAFL all year, his value goes down.
We’re coming into our window. We need injury backup which is more important than pick 30 turning into pick 50.
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I think the trade most comparable to this situation would be when Hawthorn traded Marc Pittonet to Carlton despite very much wanting to hold onto him.
Hawthorn didn't get much in return but let him go to allow him greater opportunity.
Hawks gave up Pittonet & Pick 61
Carlton gave up pick 54 and 63.
Pittonet was only 23 and is now Carlton's no.1 ruck.
Do I think Meek will be as cheap? No. But I think anything better than a pick in the late 30's is overs.
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Hawthorn didn't get much in return but let him go to allow him greater opportunity.
Hawks gave up Pittonet & Pick 61
Carlton gave up pick 54 and 63.
Pittonet was only 23 and is now Carlton's no.1 ruck.
Do I think Meek will be as cheap? No. But I think anything better than a pick in the late 30's is overs.
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Carlton has bolstered its ruck depth by securing ruckman Marc Pittonet from Hawthorn
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Meek wants to play not just be injury depth.
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